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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. zymurgist

    zymurgist New Member

    Feb 15, 2002
    I've searched through this thread, but it didn't find any info. After searching TiVo's web page, I found this release. Good news for those with a comprehensive cable HD line-up.
  2. Lancegolfs

    Lancegolfs New Member

    Mar 31, 2005
    I am a newbe but need a little help! I am buying a couple of the HD DTV boxes (one with tivo and one without) but I have seen posts of problems with mpeg4 & hdmi connection. Are these truly issues or is there not a problem? DTV tells me that mpeg4 can be upgraded on the hr10-250 when available and that the software upgrade on the hdmi connection fixes that problem. Your thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
  3. rric31

    rric31 New Member

    Jan 6, 2004
    Ok. I am the guy that has "stuff". TIVO, wireless connections throughout the house, home theater, etc.

    But let me tell you, this HDTV really baffles me. I do not have a HDTV TV, and like many others will be getting one when the prices drop, hopefully in the Plasma world to around $2000.

    My question to the board which I am sure has been answered, but I can't find it, is, will I need to purchase a new TIVO when I get HDTV in my household? Once I get the connections from my cable company for HDTV and a HDTV Television, will I also need to purchase another TIVO so I can enjoy my new HD stuff through TIVO?


    Rich in Maine
  4. dswallow

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    The only HD-capable TiVo-based device is for DirecTV; until that changes, the only way you can use TiVo for HD material is with DirecTV.

    BBURNES New Member

    Jun 23, 2004
    St. Louis, MO

    A couple of extra thoughts/answers to your question:

    1) Doug is right on. Currently, DirecTV is the only service which provides a product to enable you to record in HD utilizing Tivo. Once you buy your HD TV, if you like Tivo AND want to record in HD, you must get DirecTV.

    2) Your current Tivo will NOT record in HD. So even if you switched from cable to DirecTV, your current Tivo will not work. You must purchase the HR10-250 from DirecTV, your neighborhood electronics store or a fine online retailer. Then make the switch to DirecTV.

    3) Many cable companies now make HD DVRs available to their customers to record HD content. However, these HD DVRs are NOT Tivo. Generally, our members report that they are most inferior to Tivo functionality.

    4) Finally, Tivo has announed plans to create a Cable Card Tivo. When it is introduced, cable customers will then be able to record HD content without getting DirecTV service. So, if you are adamant about not having DirecTV service and really want to stay with cable...hope is on the way. But it will be a new unit as well. Your current Tivo will NOT work at that point with cable either.

    Sorry if you knew much of this already ... and for this very long post. But hope it helps clear up the confusion.

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

    Jan 6, 2000
    New York
    Since I live in a cave, I didn't see this announcement. Do you have any additional information (a release date?).

  7. Sparta Boy

    Sparta Boy New Member

    May 24, 2004
    sparta nj
    I understand that if you have HiDef channels that they cannot be recorded in HiDef by Tivo.

    My question is if I have HiDef channels, can I record it on my Series 2 Tivo in standard definition and have a pleasant viewing experience using an ETV Plasma (as opposed to a HDTV Plasma) ?

  8. bschwart

    bschwart New Member

    Oct 2, 2003
    I heard a rumor that DirecTv was going to stop supporting TiVo. Is this true/has anyone else heard this? I heard they are releasing a bunch of new HD channels in Mpeg4 format which is not supported by TiVo.

    This may all be false information I have been given, but I wanted to see if anyone else has heard anything about DirecTV and TiVo's relationship.

    I am in the process of deciding whether or not to get the HD TiVo from DirecTv and trying to get all the information I can. It's quite costly, but I'd rather pay more for a TiVo than less for some other no name brand.

  9. Budget_HT

    Budget_HT Heavy User (of TiVo)

    Jan 2, 2001
    Renton, WA
    If you have a stand-alone TiVo, you can use down-rezz'd outputs of an HD tuner to feed into your stand-alone TiVo and record programs broadcast in HD, IF you have a means of selecting the right channels on the HD tuner and the right input on the SA TiVo. I am NOT knowledgeable on how/whether the channel changing part would or would not work. Other folks have some experiences with this.

    If you have a non-HD (SD) DirecTV DVR with TiVo (a.k.a., a DirecTiVo), there is no way to tune in or record HD channels--OTA or satellite.

    The way to record HD programs from DirecTV satellite and OTA is with the HR10-250 HD DirecTV DVR with TiVo.

    Hope I have answered your question here. I was not clear on which TiVo type you were referring to.
  10. Norma_S

    Norma_S New Member

    Jan 30, 2005

    I, too, have heard that over at AVSForum about DirecTV and Tivo severing their relationship after the current contract expires in a couple of years.
  11. omaxwell

    omaxwell Ad Copywriter

    Apr 21, 2005
    San Francisco
    The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has a "project" to encourage people to build or buy HD recording equipment before 7/1/05 so it will not have the broadcast flag detection in place. They don't talk about DirecTivo HD, however.

    If I buy an HD DirecTivo today, 2 months before the turnover, will it already have the broadcast flag detection in place? Presumably they aren't going to convert their machines in stock on 7/1. How will I know?
  12. feldon23

    feldon23 MythBuster

    Mar 13, 2001
    Houston, TX
    The broadcast flag was overturned.
  13. feldon23

    feldon23 MythBuster

    Mar 13, 2001
    Houston, TX
    I guess it will be time to overhaul this thread soon. I don't look forward to that. :eek:
  14. t0rnado

    t0rnado New Member

    May 23, 2005
    I have a 3LNB dish and 1 standard dvr and one HD dvr.

    DTV sent two cables to the standard DVR upstairs and two to the HD TIVO on the first floor

    The problem I am having is I finished my basement and have placed the HD Tivo downstairs.

    Using just the two cables run to the first floor can I use a multi-switch to run the standard DVR on the first floor and the HD DVR now in the basement.

    PLEASE HELP !!! or direct me to an answer...I will keep searching the FAQ's and Posts.

  15. guyricardo

    guyricardo New Member

    Feb 24, 2003
    In a word...yes.

    Most posts about switches deal with going from all 4 (5 with an OTA) to 8. This would be the ideal, and I'd recommend getting a 5x8 switch anyway if you can afford it. Never know what the future will bring. If you have no other choice, you can use a 3x4 switch to convert the 2 first floor cables to 4.
  16. sandiegojoe

    sandiegojoe New Member

    Jun 4, 2005
    thanks Doug, this has been my dilemma. I know the hr10-250 has dropped down to the $600 - $700 price range now (anybody know any better deals? let me know) I was worried about buying it, only to have it become obsolete. I talked to the guy at d* customer service about the new mpeg4 format. He told me that it'll probably be coming around in october or november and when it does, they'll either send you a software upgrade or ship you a new high def tivo and you send em back your old one. He said in the past, these sorts of upgrades have been either free or really cheap.

    So now I'm torn on getting the hd tivo before the switch. I wonder if these new MPeg4 machines will sell for more at the stores, like you seem to think. In which case, getting the existing one now and then getting a free upgrade might be the cheaper route. ALthough, I've gotta imagine these tivos will be super cheap right before the change. I wonder if directtv will have some sort of qualifying purchase dates?

    decisions decisions.

    What do you guys think? should I just be patient? or could it be cheaper to buy a hr10-250 knowing i'll be able to get a free upgrade in a few months?
  17. mattn2

    mattn2 New Member

    Mar 23, 2001
    Erie, CO
    You need all 4 lines into any multiswitch that is upstream of the HD DVR.
    Otherwise you will only be able to see the non-HD (sat 101) programming.

    # Matt
  18. fwarren

    fwarren New Member

    May 7, 2005
    Hollywood, MD
    I would love to know the answer on buy now or buy later. I WANT to buy it now but can Directv be trusted to upgrade us or replace the obsolete unit when MPEG4 arrives?

    Is the best place to buy an new HD installation with Tivo at Directv or from another vendor? Which one?
  19. beardad

    beardad New Member

    Oct 20, 2003
    Bedford, TX
    I Have accidently found a hidden feature that I am not sure how this works. If I happen to catch the end of a show and want to see the whole thing I accidently found a way to record the whole thing if it is less than an hour long. One time I was 52 minutes into the program and another time I was 56 minutes into the program. In both instances I was viewing the end of a SD program. I press the back button to go back at the highest speed to view the earliest captured video then press record somehow it captures the whole program.

    In both instances the Television was off but the DVR was on the channel that I was watching when the Television was turned on.

    Has anyone heard of this before?
  20. rcmitchell

    rcmitchell New Member

    Nov 3, 2004

    Well, Tivo plans to lauch a HD Tivo/ Cable Box in Q1 2006.
    Bout damn time :) I'm really getting sick of this Time Warner Junk, and I will not pay $1000 for a directv box, which driectv is trying to phase out tivo service anyway, without full function. I will pay anything for a tivo tho :)

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