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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Jun 14, 2004 #721 of 1440
    tlrowley

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    Hey, Little Dude - thanks for the info - that's exactly what I was hoping to find - someone with real world experience with the situation in Sacramento. Now all I need is for GG to get their shipment in!

    Thanks,
    Tracey
     
  2. Jun 16, 2004 #722 of 1440
    phaseshift

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    I'm new around here; replying 5 months after the message below.
    I just got one of these cool DirectTV HD DVR units. Its not installed yet. But as an owner of a fixed-pixel display, 720p native Samsung HLN, I have found it beneficial to change the output of my cable box (to be retired next week) to match the broadcast signal HD signal.

    My TV's Faroujda chipset simply does a better job of converting 1080i to 720p than the chips in my Motorola HD cable box. A 1080i signal looks crisper when converted by my tv than it does when converted by my cable box. The difference is subtle, and most consumers probably wouldn't care.

    Has anyone found the same experience with the DirectTV units? I'll certainly play with it once my installer comes; but I expect that I'll want ABC-HD and ESPN-HD (and eventually FOX-HD when that happens) to be output in 720p, and the rest in 1080i.


     
  3. Jun 16, 2004 #723 of 1440
    phaseshift

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    Keep in mind, the current plan is for stations to give up one of their frequencies when the transition to digital reaches 85% of homes. FCC says 2006, we all know it will take longer. But eventually, unless the rules are changed, the stations will go to just one channel, and if they have a VHF, they're likely to use it.

     
  4. Jun 16, 2004 #724 of 1440
    vscotta

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  5. Jun 16, 2004 #725 of 1440
    phaseshift

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    I don't have the HD Tivo hooked up yet, but in my previous experience with DVI-enabled DVD players attached to my Samsung HLN50something, 480i or p over DVI results in a very small picture. It is not scaled to fill the screen horizontally. Its like a window in the middle of the screen. I imagine it will be the same with the HD Tivo and the Samsung; thus I will only be switching between 720p and 1080i, with 720p being used for 480i and 480p.
     
  6. Jun 16, 2004 #726 of 1440
    phaseshift

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    On INHD's web site, appears the legend:
    ONLY ON CABLE.
    It's owned by Comcast, Cox and Time Warner. I don't think it will be made available to DirectTV.
     
  7. Jun 16, 2004 #727 of 1440
    Castaa

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    This is an excellent thread.

    One question:
    Do I need a connected phone line to download the TiVo program information to use the TiVo/DirectTV HD recorder? Or does the TiVo recorder use DirectTV's program information downloaded from the satellite?

    Thanks.
     
  8. Jun 16, 2004 #728 of 1440
    dswallow

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    You need a phone line connected to do the initial setup. However if you can set up PPP over serial through your computer, you can manage without.

    You only need a phone line connected for DirecTV PPV payment data to be sent back, and for TiVo software updates and anonymous viewer data reporting (though PPP over serial works for software updates and anonymous viewer data).
     
  9. Jun 16, 2004 #729 of 1440
    Bigg

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  10. Jun 16, 2004 #730 of 1440
    Castaa

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    So once the box is setup (one time only ideally) via the phone line, I shouldn't need to reconnect the PVR/DTV Receiver to a phone line for normal TiVo operation? (This is important because a nearest phone line is over 50 feet away.)

    And thanks for the reply!
     
  11. Jun 16, 2004 #731 of 1440
    dswallow

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    Yeah, you could just reconnect it for a short time and force a daily call when you heard a new software update was out for it.

    But if you've got a phone line, and it's just a matter of connecting to it over a distance, there's wireless powerline phone extensions that work just fine with the unit that you could use, then you'd also have the PPV functionality and no worries about watching for software updates around here.
     
  12. Jun 16, 2004 #732 of 1440
    Castaa

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    Well heck. I'm sold! :)

    What is currently the best method/deal of getting a DirecTV HR10-250 DirecTV with TiVo, the DirectTV SD/HD packages and the HD dish?

    And again thank you for taking the time and replying!
     
  13. Jun 16, 2004 #733 of 1440
    Bigg

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    You need Totoal choice or better. If you want HDTV programming from the sat you will need the HD package and/or HBO and/or SHO. It is $999 everywhere and is under high demand, so just order it anywhere you can get it soon from. They should give you the Phase 3 dish (multisat) for free if you sign for a year of Total choice with HDTV package.
     
  14. Jun 26, 2004 #734 of 1440
    auee

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    Generic video question here.......my CRT TV is only capable of displaying 480i, 480p, and 1080i according to the manual. How does the HD-Tivo handle 720p with my display options? Does it do a conversion or will I not be able to view stations broadcasting with the 720p format? Does a FAQ on any of this exist somewhere?

    Thanks!
     
  15. Jun 26, 2004 #735 of 1440
    BrettStah

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    This is the FAQ thread you've posted your question to. From the first post in this thread:
     
  16. Jun 30, 2004 #736 of 1440
    RMSko

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    I've read all the posts in this thread and have a few followup questions that I'm hoping to get some help with:

    1. Is there any way to set the TiVo so that it will automatically switch the output format to the native output format (I have a Samsung HLP and I'd rather let it do the converting)?

    2. Can the TiVo indicate swhat the native output format of a particular program is?

    3. Does the TiVo have a signal meter? If not, what is the best (easiest, quickest and least expensive) way to set my outdoor antenna to get the best signal (I live in NJ about 20 miles from NYC).

    4. If I have the TiVo set to 720p, for a 480i (SD) program, does anyone know how the picture will look on a Samsung DLP set? Will it fill the entire screen?

    5. In the TiVo setup, there is an option for "TV Aspect Correction". The two choices are "Full" and "Panel (letterboxing/sidebars)". The manual then says that if the TV supports "zoom" mode you can select "full" and the picture will be stretched and no side bars will be shown. I'm not sure which is the best option to select for the Samsung HLP set.

    Thanks.
     
  17. Jun 30, 2004 #737 of 1440
    Scaroth

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    Yes - you can test the signals of the satellites and the local digital channels.
    I don't have this set, but in my experience it's best to output as close to native as possible because up-converts of 480i don't look real good to me.
    The best thing to do is to try them out and find what you like best.
    You're welcome!
     
  18. Jun 30, 2004 #738 of 1440
    RMSko

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    In looking through the manual I noticed that during setup there is an option to "Test Satellite Signal", however, there is no mention of it also testing the OTA signal and the picture in the manual seems to limit this to the satellite signal. Does the manual just miss this point and is this the place in setup where it will also test the OTA signal?
     
  19. Jun 30, 2004 #739 of 1440
    Budget_HT

    Budget_HT Heavy User (of TiVo)

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    Can't remember exactly where the OTA signal test/meter is in the menu structure, but it is close to the one for satellite and works about the same.

    There is also a two-button operation on the front of the TiVo unit that provides a bunch of information on a single screen, including signal strength/quality for all four tuners. This feature is not documented to my knowledge (in the manual). I don't remember which two buttons off-hand (my notes are at home) and I don't recall whether the readings on this page are static (frozen readings from the time the page was initially displayed) or dynamic (signal strength/quality readings varying in real time). I am at work and cannot verify any of this right now.
     
  20. Jun 30, 2004 #740 of 1440
    Tom in OH

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    You can find the sat/ota signal meter by:
    --hitting the DirecTv button on remote
    --messages & setup
    --settings
    --satellite & off-air antenna

    Checking the sat/ota antenna strength is fun.

    enjoy,
    Tom
     

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