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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Jun 2, 2004 #701 of 1440
    Budget_HT

    Budget_HT Heavy User (of TiVo)

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    I have the 5801 and it works fine for HD with the older 18x24 3-LNB dish with the Sat B/C combiner. The old dish provides direct outputs from the 110 and 119 LNBs, eliminating the need for the 22 kHz tones to lock the newer 18x20 Phase III integrated multiswitch outputs to 110/119.

    So, the 5801 is not SD-only. You can also buy external 22 kHz injectors to make the older multiswitches (like the 5801) work with the Phase III integrated dish.
     
  2. Jun 2, 2004 #702 of 1440
    typrsn

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    Thanks Dave. Where might I find the external 22 kHz injectors you speak of?
     
  3. Jun 2, 2004 #703 of 1440
    KenW

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    Attached is a picture of my Spaun. I must be missing the adjustment?
     

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  4. Jun 3, 2004 #704 of 1440
    Budget_HT

    Budget_HT Heavy User (of TiVo)

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    Here is one example of the tone injectors: http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=SP22TGEN

    KenW:

    Your Spaun is a 5801 just like mine. I noticed that you have no cables feeding the B-side inputs on the right side of the multiswitch. That is where the cables from the 110/119 satellites must be connected if you have an older 18x24 3-LNB dish. If you have the newer Phase III 18x20 integrated dish and multiswitch, then you would either need to add two tone injectors (like the example above) or change to a different multiswitch model that has the 22 kHz tone injectors built in. These are typically called cascadable, although there are older models without 22 kHz injectors that also carried that label.

    Either way, you MUST have FOUR cables from your dish to the 5x8 multiswitch to get all three satellites. The way yours is currently set up, you will only get the 101 satellite (including any HD channels that might be carried on the 101 satellite).
     
  5. Jun 5, 2004 #705 of 1440
    ahartman

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    I did a couple searches and read quite a few threads and didn't see this answered anywhere.

    Can I use an unactivated HD TiVo to pull in OTA HD channels? I won't be able to get D* out here to swap out my dish until next week (and I won't activate it until I know I can see all 3 birds) but I'd like to start getting an HD picture - I realize I may not have any PVR functionality and I'm okay with that - just want the OTA tuner part.

    Sorry if i missed the answer somewhere - I did try to look, I promise!

    Thanks in advance!
     
  6. Jun 5, 2004 #706 of 1440
    BrettStah

    BrettStah Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    ahartman, according to the user manual for the HD-Tivo, you'll have no recording capabilities, but will be able to pause and switch back and forth between both OTA tuners.
     
  7. Jun 5, 2004 #707 of 1440
    ahartman

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    Thanks Brett - I haven't even opened the box yet so I hadn't looked at the manual.

    Much appreciated!
     
  8. Jun 5, 2004 #708 of 1440
    duffin

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    I've tried the back door of Zero + ThumbsUp to no avail to determine where the storage stands on my HD for recorded programs.

    Does this backdoor work on the HR10-250?
     
  9. Jun 10, 2004 #709 of 1440
    tlrowley

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    I have a question about a Season Pass - I don't have my HDTivo, yet , and I'm coming from Replaytv - I'm new to Tivo, so please be gentle.

    My local CBS station (KOVR Sacramento) operates on a 7pm Prime time for it's SD signal, and 8pm for the HD. That means for most 8pm programs, there's an SD version on first. For example, tonight at 7pm we get "Joan of Arcadia" in SD and the same episode, in HD, at 8pm on the same channel. Obviously, I want to ensure that I get the HD version recorded in my Season Pass. Am I going to have a problem with this? Can the SP be configured to ignore the 7pm showing, and catch the 8pm?

    Thanks for your help,
    Tracey
     
  10. Jun 10, 2004 #710 of 1440
    duffin

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    Season Pass is channel specific.

    The HD is one channel and the SD is another in your case. You should have no problem.
     
  11. Jun 10, 2004 #711 of 1440
    tlrowley

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    Thanks for the reply, duffin, but maybe I wasn't clear. There are two identical episodes, SD at 7 , HD at 8 , on the same channel - 13-1 (stupid, I know). Obviously, I'm concerned that the season pass will find the first, SD, one, and ignore the second.

    Tracey
     
  12. Jun 10, 2004 #712 of 1440
    duffin

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    Nope, it will record both. It will also record up to the # of episodes you indicate in the setup.

    Another option is the Manual approach to setup time, days and channel. I do this for series like "Joan."
     
  13. Jun 10, 2004 #713 of 1440
    tlrowley

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    Okay, recording both isn't a huge problem, I'll just delete the SD.

    Why do you find it necessary to set up a manual record for "Joan"? Not that I'm trying to be nosy, I just want to learn!

    Thanks for the help,
    Tracey
     
  14. Jun 10, 2004 #714 of 1440
    duffin

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    So it doesn't record any more than the time and date I want versus the extra runs.

    Manual will save you from having the delete the HD unless you are trying to capture every "Joan" aired on 13-1.
     
  15. Jun 10, 2004 #715 of 1440
    tlrowley

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    But manual won't find it at a different time, right? Say if it's an hour later, or a "very special" 2-hour episode?

    Tracey
     
  16. Jun 10, 2004 #716 of 1440
    duffin

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    Correct. But it will record a lot of episodes you don't want.
     
  17. Jun 10, 2004 #717 of 1440
    wmccain

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    Are you sure they don't use two different subchannels? Say, 13-1 for HD and 13-2 for SD? That is the typical arrangement used by most broadcasters in my area.
     
  18. Jun 10, 2004 #718 of 1440
    tlrowley

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    Positive - at 8pm 13-2 becomes the subchannel used for SD. This only ooccurs for the 7-8pm block, because of the different start for prime time shows.
    The listings at kovr.com do show the situation I'm talking about, but they use Titantv, and have the SD and HD shows reversed at 7 and 8, but they do show the same epsiode back-to-back. On Thursday for example you have

    ___________13-1 HD_______________13-2
    7pm_______Joan (SD) _____________ Joan(SD)
    8pm_______ Joan (HD)____________CSI (SD)
    9pm________CSI (HD)_____________Without a Trace (SD)
    10pm_______ WaT (HD)_____________Local news.

    Bizarre, huh? I guess a manual record, and keeping an eye out for schedule changes would be the best thing.

    Tracey
     
  19. Jun 10, 2004 #719 of 1440
    duffin

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    Don't go by Titan TV. Go by the DirecTV channel guide.
     
  20. Jun 14, 2004 #720 of 1440
    Little Dude

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    tlrowley, be careful with that season pass in Sac. It will try to record the first Joan of Arcadia on 13-1 and skip the second (especially since I set it to record first run only). The first showing is standard (with the pretty black boxes on the side) and the second is high def. Under the season pass manager, go to the upcoming episodes and click on the second showing (the 8 for Joan of Arcadia).
     

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