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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. May 17, 2004 #681 of 1440
    BrettStah

    BrettStah Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    The HD-Tivo has one input for OTA, and that one input is split internally. You will need to look into combining your two different cables from your two antennas into a single input.
     
  2. May 17, 2004 #682 of 1440
    Joe Q

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    I have been fooling with OTA digitalfor 3-4 years now so I have a petty good idea of what I am doing.


    You can not just combine 2 antennas as the frequencies tend to cancel themselves out. It can be done if you put attennuators that notch out chunkcs of frequencies around the stations you don't get.

    In my case that won't work because between DC and Baltimore several are very close to each other. EG. I get a channel 39 from DC and 38 from Baltimore.
    Guess what - 38 is CBS who is the HD leader
    Would not do to lose that station:)

    For the past 2+ years, I have been using a MYHD PC card that accepts dual RF inputs and worrks seamlessly in the program guide. The SW is about as simple to use as a TIVO and I have 'unlimted' disk space since it is PC based.
    Besides, I can dump the recordings out to my D-VHS.
    BTW, the antenna RF switch which is IR controlled via my remote that I mentioned is hooked up AFTER the MYHD card.

    I probably will not even use the OTA capability on the HD TIVO because of what I said about my MYHD PC card and not use up that valuable 250 GB disk on the HD TIVO.


    I was only curious about all the great reports about the tuner in the HD TIVO and wanted to see if it was true because I have 3 troublesome channels from DC and Bmore.
    I got confused when hooking up because I only saw a single RF connector for OTA.




    [/i]Okay to the point cause no one is explaining to me what 'splitting internally' means.[/i]

    Is this internal split actually splitting the 8VSB signal from the NTSC signal so you get the digital and analog stations so that the TIVO shows the digital stations and the analogie stations?

    If so, then I guess calling that a dual tuner system is a play on words and I have no use for wasting disk space on analogue stations on the HD tivo.

    Please enlighten me.


    Thanks,
    Joe
     
  3. May 17, 2004 #683 of 1440
    BrettStah

    BrettStah Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    The single OTA ATSC input is internally split to feed two tuners inside. I don't know how else to word it. The HD-Tivo does not receive nor record NTSC at all.
     
  4. May 18, 2004 #684 of 1440
    Joe Q

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    Sorry for being so dense. I get it now.

    My problem was a mindset from 3+ years of using OTA PC HDTV cards and OTA HD STB's which supported signals from 2 antennas on dual RF connections,BUT only tuned to a single channel at a time.

    That was what I had stuck in my brain as dual tuners.
    Those accepted dual inputs but only a single channel cold be tuned to.

    The TIVO analogy is like PIP on a TV where the TIVO tunes to 2 different stations on the same feed.

    Sorry for the confusion. Sometimes once I get an idea in my head as to how something should work, I don't see the obvious.

    I appreciate your not losing your patience with me.

    Joe, Sheepeshly signing off.
     
  5. May 18, 2004 #685 of 1440
    timatraw

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    Will the HD Tivo be able to record OTA HD shows with an antenna hookup?
    Tim
     
  6. May 18, 2004 #686 of 1440
    Tom in OH

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    yes, it can even record two different HD channels at the same time from your antenna.
     
  7. May 21, 2004 #687 of 1440
    dreaux

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    Is it my imagination but there is not on/off button on my HD tivo remote.
    I see one for the TV but not one for the HD tivo. Is it now to stay on all the time?
    Jim
     
  8. May 21, 2004 #688 of 1440
    jjmpeters

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    TiVo's always need to be on, or they won't be able to record programs. I even have mine on a small UPS since it takes several minutes for it to synch up with the satellites if there is a power loss.
     
  9. May 21, 2004 #689 of 1440
    arxaw

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    Most satellite and digicable boxes when "off" are really still on, and consume roughly the same amount of power either way. Only the output is turned off. The only way to turn them completely off is to remove the power source. But most will have to reboot and re-acquire program guides when power is reapplied, so it's best to leave them on all the time.
     
  10. May 21, 2004 #690 of 1440
    vikesman

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    I am looking at possibly getting the HD Tivo. My question is: I have also looked at some of the DVD Burners that have Tivo with them (Pioneer Elite), Tivo Basic comes free with them, and you can pay to upgrade to Tivo + with season pass. If I get the new HD Tivo, will Tivo basic be free there as well. I am already a Direct customer, but as of yet to experience Tivo.

    Thanks.

    paul
     
  11. May 21, 2004 #691 of 1440
    feldon23

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    Absolutely not. Only the DVD recorders have this VCR-like functionality. All other TiVos require full-fledged TiVo service with Season Passes and Wishlists. TiVo Basic has nothing of what makes a TiVo a TiVo.

    I really don't think you oughta worry about $4.95/mo TiVo service on a $999 TiVo. :)
     
  12. May 22, 2004 #692 of 1440
    dreaux

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    Not true. My old Sony sat-60 has an on/off button on it. The off botton puts the tivo in a standby mode. Tivo will record in- on or standby mode.
     
  13. May 22, 2004 #693 of 1440
    dreaux

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    Is it worth getting a Monster Hdmi to Dvi cable. Will it make a difference over the cable that came with the Hdtv Tivo?
     
  14. May 22, 2004 #694 of 1440
    DVRaholic

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    No difference whatsoever !! I just returned my monster Hdmi/Dvi cable to crutchfield. I was hoping there would be an improvment over the supplied Hdmi cable, but unfortunatly there is NO Imporovment at all on the HdTivo with the Monster cable. :(
     
  15. May 27, 2004 #695 of 1440
    typrsn

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    Feldon,

    I have a Phase III dish. Up until last night I had a 4X8 switch connected to it and received all programming just fine. After installing a Spaun SMS5801 5X8 switch, I lost all DirecTV HD channels and now some of the channels are scrambled. Is there a compatibility issue?
     
  16. May 27, 2004 #696 of 1440
    Marty M

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    This is probably a dumb question but am hoping someone can confirm that I've got this right.

    Assume you're recording an HD show. Is this correct -- the HR10-250 will record in HD even if you have selected 480i on the front of the unit -- and are watching that show or some other recording using 480i. Bottom line is that no matter what you've selected on the front of the unit for format, an HD show will always be recorded in HD.

    So the unit records in HD and then you select the format for output. (Which suggests there is some 'universal' HD signal -- I don't know how else to describe it -- and the unit can then output it in any of the formats. Rather than having the unit "set" to the correct format in advance.)

    Then you have the option to play it back in HD (say 1080i) or in SD (480i) to record to DVD or VCR.

    Have I got that right?

    Thanks for any responses.
     
  17. May 27, 2004 #697 of 1440
    Joe Q

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    Only dumb questions are the ones not asked.

    The TIVO records the datastream in the native format ie. NO preprcessing is done on the data except to do whatever encryption they do on the disk.



    The 480I/P,720P,1080I is all done post processing during Playback so your bottom line is 100% correct.
     
  18. May 31, 2004 #698 of 1440
    Wisegoat

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    There are filters on the Spaun switch that need to be set. They should look like small, blue, flathead screws. I believe you need to set them to 22hz. I am not around mine right now, or I would tell you precisely. Go to Spaun's website, www.spaun.com and look for the settings. I had the same issue initially.
     
  19. May 31, 2004 #699 of 1440
    typrsn

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    After going to the site, it looks like the switch is not compatible. I will have to upgrade to the SMS5802. I have HD. The SMS5801 is only compatible with SD.
     
  20. Jun 1, 2004 #700 of 1440
    KenW

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