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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Mar 12, 2004 #481 of 1440
    dswallow

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    I'm not sure I'll ever buy a Hitachi (aka IBM) drive again in my lifetime. Way too much experience recently with Deskstar drive failures.
     
  2. Mar 12, 2004 #482 of 1440
    Baracuda

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    Well, the HD makers all have their day in the sun, then overproduce and go to hell. I agree with you. I would not want to buy a "DeathStar" at this point.
     
  3. Mar 14, 2004 #483 of 1440
    Tom in OH

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    Can anyone confirm if the HD DVR250 will record and play back DD 5.1 if it's broadcast with the event?
     
  4. Mar 14, 2004 #484 of 1440
    tivoupgrade

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    No reason to think it won't given that DirecTV/TiVo combo boxes to date have had that capability.
     
  5. Mar 14, 2004 #485 of 1440
    dswallow

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    Yes it can. It really can't help but do so as it's recording the digital stream as-is from DirecTV or OTA ATSC. For that matter, the DirecTV SD DVR's can do it too.
     
  6. Mar 14, 2004 #486 of 1440
    Tom in OH

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    excellent -- was hoping it would.... thx

    I'm also hoping it will output the 5.1 stream though the HDMI and the optical out at same time. I'm not sure which connection I'll be using for audio with my system.
     
  7. Mar 14, 2004 #487 of 1440
    stugrief

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    After all the help from this and the pre-order thread, I've now ordered the $99 HD upgrade from DirecTV, and placed a deposit on the HR10-250 at Tweeter.

    DirecTV insisted that I commit to the HD package for 1 year, but when I told the CSR that I really didn't want a higher monthly, she agreed to give me the HBO and Showtime parts of my service free for 6 months each, which pretty much covers the HD package for the year.

    The Tweeter CSR told me they're expecting an initial shipment of 80 HR10-250s on April 15. Doesn't seem realistic, but one can hope. I am #30 on their list. Price is $999.99 but they have a price guarantee for 30 days. Although they won't match web prices, they will match other retailers like CC.

    Thanks to all for the amazingly helpful info in these threads!
     
  8. Mar 14, 2004 #488 of 1440
    feldon23

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    FAQ Update:

    -Added quote about standalone TiVo from TiVo.com.
    -Changed model # from Hughes HD-DVR250 to DIRECTV HR10-250.
    -Added Zenith Silver Sensor antenna
    -Updated CBS/Fox national HD/ED comments
    -Updated 'Programming' section to mention NFL Sunday Ticket, NBA TV, Spice HD
    -Added Spice HD to 'What's available in HDTV' section
    -Reworded Fox 'Programming' section
    -Split HBO and Showtime into 2 sections under 'Programming' section

    Keep the suggestions rolling folks.
     
  9. Mar 15, 2004 #489 of 1440
    dlott

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    Looks like the FCC is going to push digital a little faster than most of us have thought:

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2004-03-15-digitaltv_x.htm

    "The plan would require the pay-TV (Cable/DBS) services to convert digital signals to analog so they could be viewed on analog TV sets, the kind most people now have, FCC officials told USA TODAY.

    That would let the government reclaim broadcasters' analog TV channels in 2006 so they can be auctioned to wireless firms, paving the way for new and improved services and raising billions for the U.S. Treasury. Also, police and fire agencies are expected to use the airwaves to improve spotty radio systems."

    "Under the plan, the government in 2006 would immediately reclaim broadcasters' analog channels in the dozens of markets where cable and satellite serve 85% of homes. The "must-carry" rules would then apply to broadcasters' digital signals. And the pay-TV systems would be required to convert digital signals to analog for consumers with analog sets.

    The providers would still be able to supply pure digital signals to people with digital sets, FCC officials say.

    Broadcasters, though, worry that consumers who don't have cable or satellite would have to shell out more than $100 for a digital-to-analog converter box, though FCC officials say a subsidy program could be arranged."
     
  10. Mar 15, 2004 #490 of 1440
    feldon23

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    Have to think about this one, but it seems like what I've been hoping would happen. When I first read it, I thought they meant that cable companies would be required to put more digital channels back on the analog tier but now I think they mean making sure that analog TVs can always pick up a good package of local and national channels.

    This also pushes Must Carry for digital AND analog local TV stations a step further.

    For everyone with a regular TV hooked up to analog cable or rabbit ears let's sell them a heavily subsidized $30-50 adapter box that lets them watch a good chunk of channels on that TV. And don't charge them a monthly fee for those TVs.
     
  11. Mar 15, 2004 #491 of 1440
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  12. Mar 15, 2004 #492 of 1440
    AbMagFab

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    And remember, analog is just 480i. Pretty much any set-top box has some form of 480i output, including every HD box out there.

    Not such a big deal.

    Cable companies, however, have adopted a "give away free" model, which is great for consumers, but will kill the cable companies in the long run. They can't possibly pay for all this hardware at $0-$10 per month, now including DVR's in some markets.
     
  13. Mar 17, 2004 #493 of 1440
    Chris Gerhard

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    A great thread, thanks to Feldon23. After reading this I am confident that DirecTV/TiVo will introduce a product that works well right from the start as the standard definition version did. My only complaint is no firewire but maybe the second generation will add that if the Dish Network PVR921 with firewire outperforms this PVR in the marketplace.

    Now to search for the best place to put my order in.

    Chris
     
  14. Mar 17, 2004 #494 of 1440
    feldon23

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    FAQ Update:

    -Added logos for each category
    -Split Standalone and OpenCable
    -Improved # of tuners in DirecTV section
    -Added 'simultaneous output' comments.
    -Improved visibility of 'No HMO' comments
    -Corrected 'American Television Standards Committee' to 'Advanced Television Systems Committee'

    I guess I need to start writing a little FAQ about what cable and other providers are offering.
     
  15. Mar 17, 2004 #495 of 1440
    martialman7

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    I have an "HD Compatible" tv that would ordinarily need a receiver. Will the Hughes HD-DVR250 act as a receiver as well or would I also need a receiver along with the Tivo?
     
  16. Mar 17, 2004 #496 of 1440
    neilaevans

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    The HDTivo IS the receiver.
     
  17. Mar 17, 2004 #497 of 1440
    slocko

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    Martial,

    The HD-Tivo would not be able to record HD, if it wasn't an HD receiver.
     
  18. Mar 17, 2004 #498 of 1440
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    feldon23

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    A DirecTV with TiVo HDTV receiver is the only equipment (other than a dish with appropriate multiswitch) you need to receive and record HDTV programming.
     
  20. Mar 18, 2004 #500 of 1440
    Bigg

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    What is the real deal with the digital broadcasting? i've heard about an 80% number that is it is not reached, the law will not happen. It is quite ridiculous though to stop broadcating in a way that has been used for 60 years. All of those little 2.6' tvs will be unusable, PIP and other functions will be unusable, and there aren't even any digital boxes out there that aren't HD and have a pricetag to reflect it. Requiring all stations to broadcast in digital, and giving them the option to get rid of the analog makes sense, but outlawing it? Someone needs to send some drug dogs to sniff out the marajauna these guys at the FCC are smoking. VCRs, TiVos and pc tuner cards would need converter boxes. these would have to be ir blasted without the possibility of twin channel watching w/o multiple boxes. AND the range of these digital is in many cases shorter, so people would no longer be able to watch the news from 5 different cities. Although many people will have digital sets, most of those willl still have analog second and third sets. THIS LAW IS RIDICULOUS!!!! maybe HD for 10% of all channels, but not THIS.
     

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