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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Mar 5, 2004 #461 of 1440
    bigpuma

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    The other consideration might be heat. With 2 250 GB HDD I assume it will get quite warm inside so you might need a better fan or some other way to cool the machine. I think weaknees will probably be checking ASAP to see if it is upgradeable and if so providing one way to do it.
     
  2. Mar 5, 2004 #462 of 1440
    hongcho

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    Space, heat and power.

    But we will soon know after someone has his/her hands on one.

    Hong.
     
  3. Mar 5, 2004 #463 of 1440
    tivoupgrade

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    We are still waiting for ours to arrive. Given the 250GB drive that will be in it, it seems LBA48 support will be native as it is in the Pioneer DVD burning units.

    Stay tuned.

    FYI - we will probably scramble to get things tested and working as soon as our units arrive, however we are not going to immediately release an upgrade product for this unit until we are certain it is supportable and performs as expected.

    Stay tuned,
    Lou
     
  4. Mar 6, 2004 #464 of 1440
    HDTivo4prez

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  5. Mar 7, 2004 #465 of 1440
    stugrief

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    Feldon, nice post. Very informative. A few questions for you, and let me preface my questions with a personal disclaimer that I am new to this, so I'm sure my questions are rather uninformed. But here goes...

    I have an 18x20 dish w/dual LNBs w/2 DirecTV/TiVo receivers and 1 plain DirecTV receiver. I understand that for HD I need the Sat C kit. Here's where I'm confused: With the Sat C kit, there will now be 5 cables coming from the antenna. The built in 4x4 multiswitch can't handle the 5th input. Your diagram with a cascading 4x8 multiswitch, which I'd like to install, shows 5 inputs going from the antenna into the 4x4 multiswitch. What am I missing?

    In addition to adding the Sat C, I'd like to add an antenna for off air HD programming. I understand from antennaweb.org that I can get away with a small multidirectional antenna. Is there a way to install this at/near the dish and connect the antenna to the cascading multiswitches? If so, is this a 6th input to the multiswitch? Also, any recommendations for a small multidirectional OA antenna?

    Thanks, and apologies if these questions don't make any sense!
     
  6. Mar 7, 2004 #466 of 1440
    dswallow

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    The SatC kit includes a combiner that will be placed in line with one of the outputs of the 119° LNB. So only 4 inputs go to the multiswitch from LNB's.

    A 5xN multiswitch provides for connection of an over-the-air antenna on the 5th input, which then is diplexed into all N outputs of the multiswitch. At the receiver(s) needing the antenna, you use a diplexer to split the satellite and over-the-air antenna signals out so they can go to their respective inputs on the receiver.

    Avoid Terk antenna's; except in the most limited circumstances, they're junk. If you need something compact and you're within 20-30 miles of all your TV stations transmitters, look at an antenna like the Winegard SS-1000 Square Shooter: http://www.warrenelectronics.com/Antennas/squareshooter.htm
     
  7. Mar 7, 2004 #467 of 1440
    stugrief

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    Thanks, Doug. Very helpful.

    If I get a 5x8 multiswitch (is Terk's ok?) then what benefit is there in cascading a 4x4 into the 5x8 vs. tossing the 4x4 and going straight from dish and OA antenna into the 5x8?
     
  8. Mar 7, 2004 #468 of 1440
    dswallow

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    If you've got the old elliptical dish with attached 4x4 multiswitch, I'd toss the 4x4 multiswitch. It just becomes another point of failure for you to worry about.

    Phase III dish owners don't have much choice since the multiswitch is built into the LNB assembly.

    The Terk BMS-58 is fine. I have that one myself. <$72.00 at www.buy.com.
     
  9. Mar 7, 2004 #469 of 1440
    stugrief

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    Thanks, Doug. I think I'm almost there...

    I'll add a SatC kit and Winegard SS-1000 OA antenna; scrap the 4x4 MS that came with my dish; feed the satellite lines and the OA antenna into a Terk BMS-58; and then use a diplexer at whatever location I want to extract the OA signal to feed into an HD tuner (e.g., Hughes DVR-HD250).

    Is that all right? Any challenge aligning the SatC? And diplexer you'd recommend?
     
  10. Mar 8, 2004 #470 of 1440
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    Currently in the *other* camp with a couple of ReplayTVs. Delayed getting HD until I could record shows. Getting the new dish installed this weekend - now I can't wait to get my HD Tivo!

    Kent
     
  11. Mar 8, 2004 #471 of 1440
    dswallow

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    If you're already getting signals fine from 101&deg; and 119&deg;, the SatC kit is plug-and-play; you'll be aligned.

    No particular recommendations on diplexers; there are different levels of quality, but I don't think there's a really major spread between them; just get one from wherever you get the multiswitch.
     
  12. Mar 8, 2004 #472 of 1440
    dswallow

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    Kent, I added your info to the chart, but just so you know, this wasn't the thread everybody's posting this stuff in. ;)
     
  13. Mar 9, 2004 #473 of 1440
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    Uh oh Kent, better move that post cause Feldon's on post patrol. ;)
     
  14. Mar 11, 2004 #474 of 1440
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    First of all, great FAQ and very helpful.

    I was hoping to clarify what remote the HD Tivo will ship with. Will it be the standard peanut remote, or will it have any sort of universal capabilities.

    The HD Tivo will be replacing the Samsung TS-160 in my HT setup, and I currently use that remote to control the Receiver, TV and Pioneer amp.

    If there's no capability to control the Pioneer, I'll have to go with a universal solution such as the Harmony.

    Ease of use for the wife is a big factor :D
     
  15. Mar 11, 2004 #475 of 1440
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    Can't tell you from experience here, however considering the packaging, and what's been going on with all the different units out there, its likely to be a peanut remote and likely to respond to the same codes as your existing peanut remote.
     
  16. Mar 11, 2004 #476 of 1440
    duffin

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    A question mark just popped up above my head because I don't recall reading about the following in this FAQ thread.

    My UTV works like other DirecTV DVR's where it needs 2 coax runs from the dish to feed 2 sat tuners.

    But with the Hughes HD-Tivo, how do you feed two OTA tuners? Does it take a single coax and split in the box or do I need to be thinking external splitter?

    GreyGhost00 - Our household with the toughest of WAF just switched to the Harmony and love it! ValueElectronics.com has the best deal (under accessories).
     
  17. Mar 11, 2004 #477 of 1440
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    It's been reported that it is split internally, so you only need 1 OTA feed.
     
  18. Mar 11, 2004 #478 of 1440
    AbMagFab

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    To be clear, there are 2 coax for the satellite feeds (dual tuner, one if you only want single tuner I'd guess), and one OTA coax for OTA HD.

    Total of 3 coax into the back of the HD Tivo.
     
  19. Mar 11, 2004 #479 of 1440
    hongcho

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    > Total of 3 coax into the back of the HD Tivo.

    And nothing (no coax, that is) comes out! :p

    BTW, it's quite annoying that you are one ahead of me. :)

    Hong.
     
  20. Mar 12, 2004 #480 of 1440
    Baracuda

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    Hitachi just announced a 400gig Deskstar. The article specifically mentioned PVRs as it's target :)
     

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