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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Jan 22, 2004 #221 of 1440
    nabsltd

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    I'd have to climb on the roof to be sure, but I think all 3 of mine (on an old 24" oval dish) are pretty close to "in line".

    Any difference in positioning, though, is just to get it aligned into the right place to pick up the 110° satellite. On a single round dish, you can accomplish this by just moving the dish, as long as the LNB is at the focus of the dish.
     
  2. Jan 22, 2004 #222 of 1440
    llogan

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    the Sat C LNB mounts no differently from any other LNB, but dswallow is right that the actual LNB portion is just ever so slightly further from the dish

    bottom line: doesn't affect your installation of a Sat C LNB on a regular dish at all.

    If I weren't worried about aesthetics, I'd definitely go the route of having one dish for every bird.
     
  3. Jan 23, 2004 #223 of 1440
    dswallow

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    I think I'd tend towards the Gainmaster myself. Bigger. More signal sucking capability. ;)
     
  4. Jan 23, 2004 #224 of 1440
    nabsltd

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    He didn't say what size dish he would use for every satellite. :)

    I'm planning on using a 30" dish for each bird when I move to a new house farther out in the country.
     
  5. Jan 23, 2004 #225 of 1440
    Bigg

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    Hiw about a 48" for each? :D:D:D LOL
    Street81: just plug them into a different inout in the TV or audio rec, and split the cable before it goes to the HD cable box and the TiVo.
    EDIT:
    http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?CAT=Antennas DirecTV Dish&PROD=SKAUL120
    along with another dish from someone else maybe...
    DISHPHARM!!!!
    EDIT2: the heck with the asthetics... the signal is all that matters... !!! :D:D:D
     
  6. Jan 25, 2004 #226 of 1440
    llogan

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    I want a dish I can sit in and that I can rotate via remote (visions of laying out in the sun on my dish...and adjusting tilt as the sun moves....

    hmm wonder if my skull would act to focus the signal....brain cancer?
     
  7. Jan 25, 2004 #227 of 1440
    Bigg

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    LOL Some bad sunburn... LOL :D:D:D
     
  8. Jan 25, 2004 #228 of 1440
    Marty M

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    I'd like to thank Feldon23 for the great FAQ and pose several additional questions that I couldn't find answers for. Any responses are greatly appreciated.

    I am currently an HD DISH customer and am seriously considering dumping DISH and my investment in that equipment and switching to HDTV TiVo. (Just read the review of the 921 on Satellite Guys -- bear in mind that these folks try to give DISH every possible break.)

    (1) Will the HD-DVR250 include a signal strength meter for HD OTA? That is very important in terms of accurate aiming of an antenna for OTA reception. The DISH 6000 includes one that is easily accessed with one push of the "view" button ; the new DISH 921 does not and has been harshly criticized for the omission.

    (2) I'll rountinely copy programs from the HD-DVR250 to a Pioneer Elite DVD-R. The Pioneer only has an S-Video or composite input at 480i -- which would be typical of most recording devices or a VCR.

    (a) Am I correct in my understanding that an HD 1080i recorded broadcast can be quickly switched to 480i SD for archival recording to a DVD-R or VCR via a button on the front of the HD-DVR250 or the remote?

    (b) I assumed that the HD-DVR250 either would output a standard signal (480i) via all three outputs simultaneously or would act like the DISH 6000 which automatically switches HD to component and SD to S-Video/Composite.

    Or do you have to go into the setup and manually switch from component to S-video output each and every time?

    If so, that would be INCREDIBLY DUMB and close to a fatal flaw in the product. Many people will use the TiVO unit to routinely transfer SD to a VCR or DVD-R to archive programs. I do it all the time -- would I have to go into the setup each and every time and change the outputs? And then go back into setup to change them back every time I watch an HD program?

    (3) What is the smallest external mast diameter that the Phase III dish can be mounted on when it is screwed down?

    (4) If I buy the HD-DVR250 and two standard receivers -- would the switch that comes with the Phase III dish be enough? For both the HD and two standard receivers to receive all possible channels?

    (5) In addition to the HD-DVR250 I planned on buying the Huges Executive Director HAH-SA. The manual is rather confusing -- can it take only 27 total favorite channels or is it 27 x 3 for a total of 81 favorite channels?
     
  9. Jan 26, 2004 #229 of 1440
    Perrin

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    I just got Cox HDTV service, and the set top box they gave me doesn't allow me to pick output resolutions. The setup menu only lets me set up preferences...favorite channels that sort of thing.
    I can't even figure out what model box this is. All I can tell is its a Motorola...no model number anywhere on the silver box.

    Makes me wonder if that's why ABC shows don't look nearly as good as CBS shows.
     
  10. Jan 26, 2004 #230 of 1440
    vonzoog

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  11. Jan 26, 2004 #231 of 1440
    llogan

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    what are you smokin? I don't see any way that the OTA input would work to allow you to record the cable HD feed. NO WAY, NO HOW, nuh-uh

    I can always be wrong but I really don't think so...
     
  12. Jan 26, 2004 #232 of 1440
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    There are many ways to send a signal. QAM (quadrature amplitude modulation) is one used by cable companies, and 8VSB (vestigial side band) is one used by ATSC for OTA. The satellites use something else. You can compare with radios (AM and FM).

    The HD Tivo can decode signals encoded with 8VSB (for OTA) and sattelite. It would not know what to do with QAM signals.

    Also, most cable signals are encrypted QAM signals, which means that most generic QAM tuner won't work.

    Hong.
     
  13. Jan 26, 2004 #233 of 1440
    BrettStah

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    Did you miss the heading right above the section you quoted that says "Standalone HD TiVo -- in development"? It specifically does NOT refer to the DirecTV/Tivo model, which is described in a different section.
     
  14. Jan 26, 2004 #234 of 1440
    vonzoog

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    Hong,

    Thanks for the explanation. That clears things up for me.

    I guess I will go have a smoke now on llogan :).
     
  15. Jan 26, 2004 #235 of 1440
    Hootydog

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    "DirecTV HD TiVos come with a High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) connector with High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP). A cable is included for TVs with HDCP-compliant DVI inputs."

    Looking for some good news, pretty please.

    It seems I took a different route than some here. I geared up with HD before TIVO via the Samsung TS-160 for OTA and Directv's offerings in 2002. As much as I know I'll love TIVO, (own stock in it but no products) I've been waiting for the HD version to come out before jumping in.

    Now I'm not sure I'll be able to take advantage to record my beloved HD.

    I have an "older" Mitsubishi WS-55819 made in January 2002. It does not have DVI, HDMI or HDCP. I had read before that would not be a problem to take advantage of the new DirecTV HD-Tivo. I believed I would be able to use my 3 component inputs to my Mits.

    Now I'm not so sure. Will the HD-Tivo work without 1) a new TV with digital video connections @ 3k+, 2) the Mits promise module @1k, or 3) some kinda $800+ adapter / converter.

    Please tell me there will be a simple hook up to get me HD-Tivo. :confused:

    Chappy
     
  16. Jan 26, 2004 #236 of 1440
    dswallow

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    The DirecTV HD DVR has component output, too.
     
  17. Jan 26, 2004 #237 of 1440
    Hootydog

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    So no worries for me then? , cpt maybe future copy right protection issues?.. or am I safe there too as long as I output only to my in house display(s).

    Chappy
     
  18. Jan 26, 2004 #238 of 1440
    jautor

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    You're fine... IIRC, HD component outputs are not affected by any of the copyright protection issues - they were specifically called out because of all the HDTV sets like yours already in the field. So you should always be able to watch HD on the component out...

    Jeff
     
  19. Jan 26, 2004 #239 of 1440
    Hootydog

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    So I can order the Hughes Direct TV TIVO HD-DVR and anticipate it to work fine with my set up?

    ...besides, of course, the issues raised in this thread (which I don't think I'll suffer from), and any "normal" early adapter yet-to-be-identified glitches. ;)
     
  20. Jan 26, 2004 #240 of 1440
    dswallow

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    Yes. It will work with your display.
     

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