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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by nyny523, May 22, 2012.
That is a great blog, thanks for sharing!
Amazon has the dvd and blu-ray. I didn't see a digital version of any kind, not even to buy or rent via download let alone streaming.
I quite enjoyed this miniseries.
The amount of family members each side was able to bring to the feud is totally foreign to me.
Before watching I did not know the two families were based in different states.
Good stuff. I ended up siding with the Hatfields in a large way.
So where did Randall get the money to fund his side of the feud?
I found myself thinking the whole time that the Hatfields didn't want a feud (other than Jim) and the McCoys always seemed to be trying to start something. Perry Cline seemed to be stirring the pot most of the time. Not sure how accurate the history was for the miniseries.
Just finished it tonight. Pretty good. The closer to the end it got the more I wanted it to last longer.
Watching part 1. I just can't figure out why Costner thinks that he can play the part of a 25 year old.
I agree. I definitely came down on the side of the Hatfields. It was telling to see McCoy run out the back door and allow the possibility of his entire family being burned out while he ran away. Religion was his crutch. I loved that Devil wasn't having any of it.
It is a bit ironic that you use the Hatfields burning and shooting women and children to death as an example of why you prefer them to the McCoys...
I think the McCoys were monsters to begin with, and the Hatfields turned into even bigger monsters.
I think there is more than enough blame to go around on both sides.
I don't see anyone being right anywhere, just buttloads of unnecessary tragedy and suffering.
I agree with Toni and Rob...both sides are equally guilty, though the Hatfields had meaner people. Jim Vance was by far the worst, but even Devll Anse himself ended up being someone worthy of going to hell when he denied any mercy to the 3 McCoy boys despite the pleas of both their father and mother. Plus, remember the scene near the beginning (and was used in the trailers) when Devil Anse killed the second boy in the Union uniform, simply because he didn't want any witnesses? Randall McCoy had a relative who fought for the Union and did nothing to him, unlike Jim Vance. Devil Anse also threw Cotton Top "under the bus" (yes I know there were no buses back then) rather than try to plea for his release.
As far as Randall McCoy running out the back door, he originally did not want to do that. His wife and the one son who was eventually killed in front convinced him to do that. The reasoning behind it was that it was hoped if Randall was not there, the Hatfield posse would go away and leave the rest of the family alone. However when the Hatfields set fire to the house, everything changed, and even Jim Vance admitted to Devil Anse that things turned out badly.
It seemed the McCoys were painted as mostly idiots or mentally ill. Those three boys locked up calling for Pa appeared to be a bunch of fools. And the senior McCoys were dillusional.
The only McCoy that I thought would have any sort of mental illness was Randall himself, and it was clearly PTSD from the war and being a POW. That could explain why he had that "They're out to get me" mentality and definitely a factor in how he became an alcoholic.
The documentary that was cited earlier is interesting (so far...I'm only a half-hour into it) in its discussion of the feud's origins. Basically, everybody agrees that nobody has a clue what started it, but it must have had something to do with the Civil War because before that the families coexisted in peace for a half century, and then all hell breaks loose.
They also played a little game with the infuriating tendency of shows like this to present an expert giving a controversial theory as if it's established fact, and then not giving any kind of context for the theory. On the question of the McCoys' allegiances during the Civil War, they had one expert categorically state that while a few were Union soldiers, most were Confederate sympathizers, followed immediately by another expert who categorically stated that they were all Union men.
But then they lost points by suggesting that Devil Anse took part in the first murder (of the Union McCoy), when everything I've seen (not much, granted) says that it was conclusively proven that he was home sick when the murder took place.
forgot about this. Anyone know if it will re-air? I can't find it on there site.
I've only skimmed a few pages of this thread because we're only half way through the first part but...
Does anyone know why the language was edited? Seems kind of silly since I believe this is the first time it's aired anywhere.
I haven't noticed language being edited - which words?
According to the documentary, Randolph didn't leave until the house was on fire, the girl and boy were dead, and his wife was beaten nearly to death and left for dead. Then and only then did he run away.
We recorded a 4pm re-airing of the first part and the words were bleeped. But the other two were recorded during prime time and nothing was bleeped. I thought it was because of the time slot of the re-airing.
I read on another forum that the first airings had a longer scene or two as well as being the only ones not bleeped.
I haven't compared two recordings to see but they had examples.