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Hatfields & McCoys on The History Channel

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by nyny523, May 22, 2012.

  1. May 30, 2012 #81 of 179
    nirisahn

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    If the show has only half it's facts straight, I'm really feeling sympathetic towards the McCoys. I wonder whether the show's written by a McCoy descendant or sympathizer or was it really pretty much that the Hatfields were just that evil.
     
  2. May 30, 2012 #82 of 179
    Linnemir

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    I never thought of Jon Snow as dumb, but haven't read the books in ages and don't get HBO, so I won't argue :D And Johnse gets ever DUMBER in the second part. I'm not sure how he can top Part 2's dumbness in part three!

    BTW, has anyone looked at pics of the real players? The image I found for Jonse was dang creepy, and Roseanna was anything but a raving beauty!
     
  3. May 30, 2012 #83 of 179
    cherry ghost

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    so they don't really look like this?

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  4. May 30, 2012 #84 of 179
    cheesesteak

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    sieglinde

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    The terrain is important. We don't get the feeling of the total hard scrabble existance until we would see the almost unihabitable terrain.
     
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    Gerryex

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    I've only watched Part One so far but I think its quite good! I have a question though and I don't know if spoilers are OK in this thread so just in case I put it under spoiler tags:

    In one of the early scenes there's a guy at the bar in a Union jacket. At a table are a bunch of guys we find out later are Hatfields. Words are traded back and forth and the guy with the Union jacket leaves, barely missing being shot. Later on one of the guys from the table goes to the other guys home and kills him. We later find out the guy killed is the brother of Randall McCoy. Do I have my facts right? If so, I'm confused as to why Randall's brother had a Union jacket on when Randall and Anse Hatfield were definitely fighting together with the Confederacy. Did Randall actually fight with the Union?


    Anyway, great show!

    Gerry
     
  8. May 30, 2012 #88 of 179
    Jayjoans

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    There was mention after his death that it could be difficult to prove who killed him since even some of his "kin" could have wanted him dead. He did fight for the Union even though his brother was a Confederate. It wasn't unheard of during the Civil War for families to be divided and brother fighting brother.

    To your post: Randle Mc Coy didn't fight for the Union, but his brother Asa Harmon McCoy did.
     
  9. May 30, 2012 #89 of 179
    Rob Helmerichs

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    They were in a pretty divided area...in fact, the reason West Virginia exists is because most people there didn't want to succeed with the rest of Virgina. But the Hatfields lived on the West Virginia side of the river and mostly fought for the Confederacy, and the McCoys in Kentucky where the state was so divided it never really took a side.
     
  10. May 30, 2012 #90 of 179
    bareyb

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    I'm still holding these in their folder. How are you guys liking it so far? I'm kind of sensitive to extreme cruelty (like killing people's kids in front of them, stuff like that). Is this a "family friendly" type show or it "pretty bad" with all the blood, cruelty and killing? In other words, is this thing going haunt me? :p
     
  11. May 30, 2012 #91 of 179
    Donbadabon

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    There is blood, but I don't remember it being more than what I see on normal crime shows.
    The only scene that really sticks in my head as being graphic is an execution of 3 of the boys. The way the bodies fell around the tree seemed very, very realistic. There was no blood there, but the ragdoll effect was very intense, to me.
     
  12. May 30, 2012 #92 of 179
    TonyD79

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    Sorry. That definition would mean that a story set in midevil Europe would be a western.
     
  13. May 30, 2012 #93 of 179
    TonyD79

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    Fun with typos!
     
  14. May 30, 2012 #94 of 179
    TonyD79

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    Not sure it is irrelevant. Part of why the area was so focused on those two families and why it is so frontier like post Civil War even though the US was a sea to sea country was the terrain. Made the area insular.

    That and the harshness of farming and working that land. The land itself is a huge part of the story. But maybe one that would not convey well, anyway.

    If this were the real terrain, we would never have the term hillbilly. ;)
     
  15. May 30, 2012 #95 of 179
    bareyb

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    I can handle blood and shooting. I just can't handle extreme (messed up in the head type) cruelty... Kind of a Wuss in that regard. I had to stop watching "The Shield" for instance and some of the scenes from "Oz" still haunt me to this day. :D

    It sounds like this one is probably okay but I wanted to make sure before I dive in. Some of the previews (where that lady tells that guy he killed her entire family) gave me pause, but I'll give it a go. It sounds pretty good... Not Lonesome Dove good, but pretty good. ;)
     
  16. May 30, 2012 #96 of 179
    RonDawg

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    You're entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to mine, thanks.

    Personally, I don't think anybody else besides you really cares what it's called.
     
  17. May 30, 2012 #97 of 179
    markz

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    Definitely not family-friendly, but not overly gory. Some of the violence is mostly suggested but not shown. I don't remember much blood splattering.

    Anyone else?
     
  18. May 30, 2012 #98 of 179
    markz

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    The scene was filmed from behind and a short distance away, so you didn't see the gun shot wounds.
     
  19. May 30, 2012 #99 of 179
    getreal

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    Hmmmmm ... I think you meant "medieval" in that earlier post, before you corrected someone else's spelling of "succeed" vs "secede".

    BUSTED! :p
     
  20. Rob Helmerichs

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    And not only that, but correcting a midevil historian! :D

    (It's gotten to the point where I barely even notice "midevil" any more...)
     

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