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Hate The Pause Ads

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by blam, May 15, 2009.

  1. morac

    morac Cat God

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    I believe the TiVo software will only display the "More Info" link if it detects a broadband connection. In other words, if trying to use the VOD menu item results in a message about needing broadband, then the "More Info" menu won't display.

    Ads can still display though, even if you don't have a broadband connection. As long as the Showcase item exists, the ad will display.

    At least the above is what happened to me when I had a Internet outage about two weeks ago.
     
  2. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

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    Well, FINALLY you said something I can agree with....
     
  3. RoyK

    RoyK New Member

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    Alter my post then claim to agree with it. Really a mature thing to do. As I said above - grow up.
     
  4. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    yeah the thread is simply amusing me now :)
     
  5. Jim_Huston

    Jim_Huston New Member

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    I bought the TIVO because I didn't want to watch commercials on TV. It really irritates me that TIVO is placing the ads at the bottom of the screen during pause. We should be able to toggle our settings so we don't need to watch the ads if we don't wish to.
     
  6. TerpBE

    TerpBE Go Terps!

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    Search for "S-P-S-Pause-S" or "SPSPS" for information on how to have the ads quickly disappear (<1 sec) when you hit pause.
     
  7. andyw715

    andyw715 Active Member

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    I guess I don't get the whole pause ad thing, or even the dislike.
    Its not like you are watching the TV while paused.
     
  8. Jim_Huston

    Jim_Huston New Member

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    I did the search & came up with nothing.
    Thank you.
     
  9. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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  10. TrooperOrange

    TrooperOrange New Member

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    So I also really dislike the ads. We do pay them monthly for a service that really should be free.

    Then to layer advertising on top of that is just salt in the wound.

    What I am wondering is if we can find a simple solution. The ads I am guessing are served up from different URL's or IPs as the rest of the EGP etc... so if we knew what those addresses or ranges were we could simply block them at the router.

    This would presumably prevent the ads from showing, but keep everything else as normal.

    This is assuming that the ads are not served from the exact same addresses that the EPG et. al. is served from.

    Wonder if something like that would be feasible?
     
  11. TrooperOrange

    TrooperOrange New Member

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    Think I'll make this a project. Already have the tiro on a different router and subnet, getting wireshark going, see what I can find. Sift through the traffic like finding a needle in a haystack, just need to try and locate when it retrieves and ad, and an EPG update and see where they are headed.

    Might be a better way to do this, I just don't have the expertise.
     
  12. jrtroo

    jrtroo User

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    This thread is ancient. There are many many threads just like it.

    The adds subsidize the service, and there are no options to pay an unsubsidized price.

    You get used to them, and like a billboard that you never look at, they will eventually disappear from your mind when using. How often do you pause and look at the screen? Most times, if you are doing that, you will end up hitting clear to get rid of the progress bar anyhow.

    Go ahead and try what you want, nobody has been successful over a long period of time. I'm not sure if it is against the tivo service agreement, but you may want to look that over first.
     
  13. TrooperOrange

    TrooperOrange New Member

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    Thanks jrtoo.

    What are they subsidizing? lol I call BS, they are just money grabbing, of course that is normal though.

    I mean $400 piece of hardware, then $15/mo on top of that for what amounts to an EPG? They obviously don't spend that much on development given the state of the half assed HD/non HD ui elements and slow as molasses implementations.

    Anyway I digress. Advertising is everywhere these days.

    Looks like it can be done with privoxy BTW.

    EDIT: I guess I should clarify. I used to run an MCE setup and decided to go to Tivo. I guess the thing that chafes my hide is that prior to purchasing nowhere did I see them state it was subsidized by advertising etc... I found out the first time I turned on the device. It caught me off guard. This too however is normal. PS3 has advertising, the 360 has it as well and xbox live gold is a pay service too. So does my apple TV, and roku etc... So not unusual.

    I have been spoiled by stuff like adblock on browsers etc...
     
  14. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    They are subsidizing our subscription rate. Which would you prefer?
    $15/mo with ads or $25/mo without?

    You're getting the hardware at a reasonable price (IMO). Try to build your own DVR. Price out each of the following and let me know what you come up with.
    • Case
    • Motherboard
    • Memory
    • Video Card (may not be needed depending on MB)
    • Hard drive(s)
    • Tuner device(s)
    • Operating software (e.g. if you plan to use WMC)
    • Cooling fans
    • CD ROM (for installing software if needed)
    • The approximate value of your time putting it all together and getting it working
    etc.

    Now as for the service, it is much more than a EPG. You are basically paying a license fee to use the TiVo software and all the features that it offers, some of them exclusive. Just like other software licenses you get access to more features as opposed to using the free version of the software.

    I can agree with that. You learn to ignore it all.

    Yep. But IMO, TiVo is the least offensive perpetrator. It could be worse.
    TiVo could put the ads at the TOP of your show folder instead of the bottom.
    They could delete the backdoor code that makes pause ads disappear quickly.
    I'm not going to extrapolate further because I don't want to give TiVo any ideas. :p
     
  15. DancnDude

    DancnDude Thrice as nice TCF Club

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    Or get a Harmony remote and program the pause button to send Pause-DownArrow which will make the ad go away immediately after you pause. The Harmony One is awesome :)
     
  16. shipspeed

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    agreed. tivo should offer two monthly rates - with and without ads.
     
  17. timckelley

    timckelley TCFer

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    I suppose by extension, two lifetime subscription prices. I wonder how many people would be willing to pay that higher price, just to avoid ads that aren't even being shown during the program.
     
  18. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

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    TiVo has yet to consistently turn a profit even though they require service fees and advertising. Nobody else seems to think that there's money to be made in the retail DVR market, or they've tried and failed. What do you know that TiVo and everyone else has failed to figure out?
     
  19. lrhorer

    lrhorer Active Member

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    That is not the choice. The choice is $35 a month with the ads, which is what we are paying now whether we own a Tivo or not, or $25 a month without. Anyone who thinks they are not paying a premium for the existence of an ad is a fool, and they do so whether they consume or make any use of the ad medium, or not.

    Actually, a bit too low.

    It doesn't matter to me in the least where they put them, especially since I eliminate them completely anyway. What does matter is I have to pay for those ads. (Note: the total cost to me must include the cost of all similar ads. The cost from just TiVo is small, but when added to all similar advertising, the cost mounts, and for every person who does not use a TiVo there is another using a Kindle, or an iPad, or whatever, that also is subsidized by ad revenues.) It would be much, much cheaper to the bottom line if no hardware were subsidized by advertising, and the extra $10 a month or so for my TiVo would be much smaller than the cost of advertising for which I must pay.
     
  20. TiVo Fool

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    I just don't get the whole "I can't stand the ads" thing. They are so unobtrusive. They don't impact the functionality of my DVR or how I use it. They don't make me wait for anything. I don't even see them anymore!
     

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