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Hate The Pause Ads

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by blam, May 15, 2009.

  1. May 17, 2009 #81 of 190
    orangeboy

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    I wouldn't be jumping for joy about the Moxi too much yet. After watching this video on YouTube, it looks like there are some deficiencies they need to work through: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkfygsJ6J0
     
  2. May 17, 2009 #82 of 190
    samo

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    You are correct, but only if product is perceived by the consumers as the best. Has nothing to do with product being the best or substantially better than competition. The perfect examples are designer merchandise.
    TiVo's incompetent marketing department spent 100's of millions and never made a dent in customer's perception of TiVo as being the best product.
    After using TiVo for nearly 10 years, I'm not convinced that TiVo has the best product either.
     
  3. May 17, 2009 #83 of 190
    RoyK

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    You'll get no argument from me there.
     
  4. May 17, 2009 #84 of 190
    samo

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    Admittedly, I know close to nothing about Moxi. But why you keep referring to $100 difference in prices as a big deal? Just a short while ago when gas was $4 a gallon it would take you $100 to fill-up your full size truck. How about dinner for two? I don't see a $100 as a big deterrent for people who are willing to shell out $700-800 for the CE gear.
     
  5. May 17, 2009 #85 of 190
    ZeoTiVo

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    OMG - you have a wife as well who will just suddenly start back up on a conversation that happened hours or days ago because something just came out of the ever turning wheels in her head.
    With pause we can now work over whatever was just churned out and get it behind us and then back to the show without missing anything.

    Pause is indeed a win-win though sometimes the ad banner on the screen is way more interesting to me ;)
     
  6. May 17, 2009 #86 of 190
    ZeoTiVo

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    well to anyone thinking about buying their first standalone cable DVR. But for someone who has TiVo capable of HD already it seems more like dropping the money already spent on TiVo if they move on to Moxi. Personally I need something far more compelling them currently no ads on the interface.
     
  7. May 17, 2009 #87 of 190
    bicker

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    I'd be more than happy for you send me the spare $100 bills you have sitting around the house.
     
  8. May 18, 2009 #88 of 190
    parzec

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    I really don't [FOR MORE INFORMATION ON COKE CLICK HERE] see what all the [SEE THE NEW LEXUS HERE] complaining is about. If somebody wants to promote a product [SEE THE LATEST ON THE MOXI DVR HERE] that is their right. I mean, we live in a capitalistic society [CLICK HERE FOR INFORMATION ON MCONALDS McCAFE] and ads will gradually [HAVE YOU TRIED BLU-RAY - CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION] migrate to all forms of communication and products[PRESS PAUSE TO TEMPORARILY DISABLE THESE ADS] :D:D
     
  9. May 18, 2009 #89 of 190
    daveak

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    Price is enough of a deterrent that Beta lost to VHS. Though broadcasters and commercial companies didn't start to get rid of Beta until the last couple of years - they never adopted VHS. We had Beta because it was better.

    Actually my parents still have their Beta and use it to watch their legacy (aka old) movies. The best thing about visiting them is all the classic Star Trek that looks so good on a Beta tape in a quality machine.

    The problem is the average consumer is perfectly happy shelling out $10 - to $30 a month for a crapple (sorry meant cable) dvr that is usually not even HD, for a box they will never own that is certainly no equal to TiVo. Don't know about all the cable markets, but where I live the UI has ads. More than one and they make it hard to see the scheduled programs.

    And of course the stand alone Moxi box itself has no ads, they are brand new and have a tiny customer base. Sure you can purchase a stand alone Moxi and get their guide service for 'free' (at $800 it better be free), and it does not have ads. We won't even discuss the boxes this same company makes for cable companies that have *gasp* ads... Must be the guide data supplier putting them there, Moxi would never allow that to happen to one of their boxes.

    Assuming you actually get an actual service contract with the Moxi purchase, I would read it very carefully. Just where do they promise in writing that you will never see ads on the stand alone box they are selling? (I have not been able to find this in writing). I am hopeful someone can make this clear to me - after all, without a monthly sub base - what incentive do they have to keep you happy after you purchase their box?
     
  10. May 18, 2009 #90 of 190
    solutionsetc

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    Actually, consumer Beta died because Sony missed the boat on 4 and 6 hour tapes/record modes. Folks didn't care about quality but were desperate for more than a couple of hours of unattended recording.
     
  11. May 18, 2009 #91 of 190
    ZeoTiVo

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    yep, and if you had any new and informative content that I was willing to deal with the ads over then you could make some moeny and make the content even better.

    However if you have nothing innovative otherwise then you fall by the wayside.
     
  12. May 18, 2009 #92 of 190
    Bierboy

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    Hmmm....I hit the down button and easily read your post :D
     
  13. May 19, 2009 #93 of 190
    daveak

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    And that is probably why my folks have so many Beta tapes. Good point, but people like my parents just bought more tapes. They must have influenced me a little too much, why settle for less than optimum? :D

    And yes, optimum would probably be no ads. But I might just miss a couple of them (probably no the belly band, I have not clicked on that one - could someone let me know what that is good for?)>
     
  14. May 19, 2009 #94 of 190
    caddyroger

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    Just used the scroll down wheel and poof no more reading your post.
     
  15. May 19, 2009 #95 of 190
    bicker

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    You're a smart guy. What's really going to be a shame is all the folks who will be up-in-arms when Moxi does something that they don't like, that they assumed Moxi promised they would not do (when Moxi never really promised that at all).
     
  16. May 19, 2009 #96 of 190
    jlb

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    I don't mind the pause ads/extras. I just wish you could default it to "hide extras".
     
  17. May 19, 2009 #97 of 190
    timckelley

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    Any chance that the slippery slope has been crossed, and the next step is that we'll start seeing banner ads under our shows as the show is playing (thus taking a strip of space out from the bottom of our screen)? If that ever happens, that will be really annoying.
     
  18. May 19, 2009 #98 of 190
    ZeoTiVo

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    and how fast do you think TiVo subscriptions would also slide down that slope as well? Which leads to the next question - "Why on earth would TiVo do something like that which would quickly devalue the ad being there in the first place?"
     
  19. May 19, 2009 #99 of 190
    gonzotek

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    The answer, were that particular scenario to occur, would be because every other digital video receiver/recorder/downloader/player is doing the same thing, and there's no way for anyone to avoid the ads, if they want to watch the show.

    On the other hand, a strip of cardboard would defeat those particular ads pretty quickly. :D
     
  20. ppartekim

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    I don't particularly like the new ads either but I will live with them until they get too abusive. Tivo needs to make money and they are not making it from me anymore. I bought two Series 1 Tivos with lifetime agreements like close to 10 years ago (so long, I don't remember tv without them).

    Granted I have upgraded them to Series 2 and now Series 3 but other than that I have not paid anymore for the Tivo subscription so where are they going to get there money if not from ads or raising the price for everyone else (and unless they cancel the lifetime, there will be no more from me).
     

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