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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by blam, May 15, 2009.
Show me ANYTHING that conveys that, ever.
I had no idea you felt this way.
Thanks for that.
The pause ads are super annoying. When my prepaid 2year sub is up I might dump cable and TiVo and go with DirecTV. The pause ads are the last straw.
Verizon wants to differentiate and distance itself from cable companies in order to take away cable customers so I don't see them putting ads in the DVR.
Technically the thumbs up and billboard ads set the precendent, though they are supposed to only display over commercials.
Personally I'd like a way to disable the "More Info" button or at least have it default to not showing if there's no actual ad. TiVo makes no money on the "More Info" button by itself, just the ads. As such I don't see why they'd be against this.
The pause menu 'feature' definitely seems like it was deployed with little thought other than potential profit.
If it's a feature why not put it in the program info screen where everything else is?
Why offer the ability to hide it yet not make it stick?
Why offer the ability to hide it yet still add pointless text stating: "Press UP to show ads"? Oh wait.. I meant "extras".
I think the reason many people are annoyed by this feature is because it's blatantly obvious what the answer is to all of the above questions; profit. It's one of those in-your-face, you can't ignore me ads. It's similar to those ads you get when you close out your browser and suddenly it reopens with an ad. Furthermore, most people who pause their Tivo verify it actually paused by looking for the bar; which now conveniently contains the ad directly above it. (Does the word Oracea sound familiar to you?) Too bad Adblock Plus can't be ported over to Tivo.
I do have mixed feelings at times if you believe everything you hear regarding the future of Tivo and why they might be doing all this. One of the major points for the ads is that Tivo needs them to survive. The thing is if this is true than it's certainly not a good sign for Tivo's future. AOL was in the same exact situation and it's a miracle they are still around; although they are loosing customers in record numbers. They even had to resort to offering their service for free because the ads became so bad and blatantly obvious people started asking "Why am I paying for this again?" Another major thing occurred, it used to be AOL was the only user friendly way of chatting online. There was no other alternative; or at least one as user friendly as AOL was. Tivo currently is in the same situation. There is no other alternative that offers the same feature-set, or better, than Tivo right now. However, there are companies beginning to change this and within a few years I'm sure there will be several other products just as good, or perhaps even better, than Tivo. I sure hope we don't see Tivo become another AOL.
Disclaimer: Seriously, I love my Tivo. I Promise. I'm simply assessing the current situation of Tivo given the available facts. As of right now my TivoHD is my third favorite electronic gadget in my household. Second goes to my HDTV and first, my PC.
Look at the number of posts I have here. Trolls don't typically survive here with that number.
1) When nature calls, I hit the TiVo button, not the pause button. But, if I did hit the pause button when nature calls, I would not be bothered by what's on the screen because I'm in the bathroom. But, I don't have a TV in the bathroom. Maybe you do.
2) Nope. Never done that. Can't imagine what you are looking at.
2B). Yes, my wife likes those also, so I hit the pause button, then the clear button. No big deal. If it was, I'd program the sequence in my Harmony remote.
So, twice a week I may hit the pause button. It's not enough of a deal to get me upset. Just chill.
Also, I don't know about the rest of TiVo owners but I didn't buy a TiVo to skip commercials. It's nice to do so, admittedly, but I do it to time-shift. Even if DVRs didn't allow me to FF, I'd still own one.
BINGO....folks, we have a winner!
Yep and I bet he doesn't have the 30 second skip button enabled either.
He is one of the 12 Tivo owners that watches commercials.
I'm sick of all the Ads I see when I watch TV, so I'm done watching TV.
Wait, look at all those billboards out on the street. Now I'm done driving too. Did that movie just have product placement in it? Now I'm done with movies!
Did my alphabets cereal just spell out Coke? Now I'd done eating food!!
What just popped up on my browser, a spam ad? Well now I'm done with the internet!!!
So, your response to the ads is to just take it.
Just roll over. There is nothing you can do about it.
So do nothing. Remain quiet while others dictate your destiny to you.
And to top it off, you make fun of the people that make the choice to become vocal about something that they do not accept?
Seriously, it is this kind of passive non-reaction to oppression that sends the signal that we like what they're doing and, please can we have some more?
When exactly will it be too much for you to tolerate? When 75% of the screen is covered with a continuous ad that you cannot dismiss by any action?
Ridiculing those you do not agree with will not cause them to alter their beliefs.
I finally broke down and reprogrammed the pause button on my universal remote to run a two command macro ('pause' and 'down'). Presto, no more pause ads.
TiVo is oppressing you?
and you expect to be taken seriosly?
I was making a generalization of passive behavior.
I didn't really mean it to be specific to TiVo.
Being passive will never provide a desired result. It is only through taking the position of offense that will create an impact and lasting change.
If you choose not to take me seriously, I could simply not care less.
If the only action taken in your distaste of the actions of TiVo is to complain here then it serves as no more then lip service and is meaningless.
The way change is made is through action. You and others can ***** all you want about the ads, but so what. You're still using the service. You're not taking an offensive action, you're just a noise in the background.
Well said. And the repetition nature of these threads is just a desperate attempt on the part of critics to try to find an unrebutted soap-box from which they can spew their personal frustration and anger. However, discussion forums are not the appropriate venue for an unrebutted soap-box. If you want to ***** about something where people won't call you out on the lack of scope or circumstance of what you're bitching about, look into a blog or post to your Facebook page. Post to a discussion board if you want to read both messages both in support and in opposition.
Complaints on TC accomplishing few things.
1. They show TiVo management that regardless how upset some TiVo users are, they will not jump the ship and at worse they will re-program their universal remotes.
2. Perhaps some people who came to this forum for a help on deciding on TiVo purchase will be discouraged to do so. So what. Considering that total TiVo sales are dismal, lost sales would be a drop in a bucket.
3. They mobilize small time TiVo shareholders to post replies and to explain everybody that TiVo needs to make money.
4. They provide entertaining reading. It is fun to read pros and cons on the obvious topic. Of course just about everybody (except for the TiVo shareholders) would love to get rid of the ads. But justifications people come up with for the ads to stay and proclamations of anger over these ads are really funny at times.
5. They bump the traffic in Coffee House. Without this topic there would almost nothing to talk about.