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Hate The Pause Ads

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by blam, May 15, 2009.

  1. May 15, 2009 #21 of 190

    pilotbob New Member

    Nov 8, 2007
    Not that I care about the ads. My son didn't like it. But, as someone said, it is paused because I am not looking at it. If I paused it TO look at it, press down. Not a big deal.

    But, perhaps this weekend I will create a macro for my harmony remote that does PAUSE -< DOWN when I press the pause button. Don't you all have programmable remotes?

  2. May 15, 2009 #22 of 190

    daveak Series 3 Novice

    Mar 23, 2009
    Riddled with advertisements, what? I don't think I've ever seen more than one at a time, which is certainly less than what you get on the local cable (wannabe) dvr UI. I certainly see the point about paying a sub and getting advertising, how much would the sub be without the ads? Or even better (though it seems that many of you would disagree), could I get my TiVo service free with ads?

    And I might as well confess - I have clicked on some of the ads. Two ads for different movies, one for an upcoming new show, and one for the BMW. There have been at least a couple more... :eek:

    I am not ashamed to admit it and I should also confess - seeing ads for new and upcoming shows is rather helpful to me, since I click through so many ads when I am watching a program. How else would I know there is a new show on Fox I might want to record? Or a new movie? The banner or pop up ad is much less intrusive (and I can choose to click for more info) than the commercials I routinely skip.

    Now about those ads the writers and producers are actually building and writing directly into my favorite shows... :mad:
  3. May 15, 2009 #23 of 190

    RoyK New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    SW VA
    I'm not chasing anyone away. I'm merely pointing out that the number of ads on the TiVo UI is large now and grows larger and larger. That is a fact. If prospective users find that not to their liking then it is what TIVO is doing that is chasing them away -- not me.
  4. May 15, 2009 #24 of 190

    donnoh Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    I am sick and tired of all the bitching about Tivo's ads.

    Let's take a look at what people ***** about.

    1. Press pause button and besides the pause bar another bar shows up with a "more about" button, occasionaly another bar comes up with an ad.

    2. Press the "clear" button and the screen reverts to a still shot.

    3. Press the down button and the screen reverts to a still shot and the pause bar.

    For some reason this seems to be more work than the average Tivo user can handle.

    When I press the pause button it's for one of a couple of reasons:
    1. Answer the phone or door.
    2. Go to the bathroom

    Why do people get pissed looking at an ad on a paused screen?
  5. May 15, 2009 #25 of 190

    solutionsetc Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    I think because it sets a new precedent. Tivo is now displaying ads while we're watching a show (please let's not get into a debate as to whether pause is considered part of watching a show - the show is on screen, and so is the ad).

    If everyone is ok with this, fine. Some are; some are not. For the folks that aren't ok with it I think it is important to let TiVo know. If you see this as bitching, and are tired of it, don't read the posts (let alone post yourself and continue the discussion).

    I can't help wonder what will be next from TiVo if everyone is on board with this little addition... and I am not because of that. Due to the TiVo low rez interface on hi-def sets, the popup is huge; and way over the top AFAIAC.

    Is it enough for me to send my TiVos back. No... not now. But...

    1.) If some other DVR comes along to support MRV (not far off), and

    2.) We see better software (not hard to do IMHO), and better direct support for the Macintosh, and

    3.) TiVo adds more ads to the interface

    I will be gone in a heartbeat. This is why I have yet to purchase lifetime service for my new Tivo HDs. I figure this will all pretty much be sorted out within the next year or so.
  6. May 15, 2009 #26 of 190

    audioscience Droppin' Science *

    Feb 10, 2005
    I pay no attention to the pause ads or any of the ads that Tivo has.
  7. May 15, 2009 #27 of 190

    MickeS New Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Money talks. If you don't like it, you NEED to stop your subscriptions (provided you are not under contract) AND tell TiVo why you do so. It really is the only way.

    If you ARE under contract, you need to stop using the TiVo. TiVo collects data, and will notice.

    You can keep complaining here all you want (and you should), but what really matters is non-use of your TiVo. If you keep using it, but complain, TiVo will not care.
  8. May 15, 2009 #28 of 190

    smak TV MA SLV

    Feb 11, 2000
    NoHo, CA USA
    If you are pausing the Tivo because something came up, like a phone call, or you have to go into the other room it shouldn't matter what's on the screen when you're not looking at it.

    If you are pausing the Tivo because you want to see something on the screen, pause brings up the green bar anyway, and you either have to clear that, or wait until it's gone.

    Everytime I pause the screen to see something like credits, i'm hitting clear anyway to get rid of the green bar. This was before any ads. I do it on my directv too.

  9. May 15, 2009 #29 of 190

    xboard07 New Member

    Dec 15, 2007
    be careful, all the fanboy Tivo defenders will be coming out in droves
  10. May 15, 2009 #30 of 190

    RoyK New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    SW VA

    Let's see... The topic of this thread is "Hate the pause ads." which is a pretty clear indication that it contains comments bitching about Tivo's ads. Yet here you are posting in the thread which obviously means you clicked on it to read posts about........
  11. May 15, 2009 #31 of 190

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004

    TiVo Meeting Room -
    Oh No - there are 200 posts by 12 people on TCF - we need to rethink everything.

    One is even starting whole new threads about it :eek:
  12. May 15, 2009 #32 of 190

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004
    so you say something that is incorrect and we are not allowed to debate that? I don't know about you but I don't think the plot develops fast enough when the show is paused. :p
  13. May 15, 2009 #33 of 190

    solutionsetc Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    It is a judgement call... depending on why you hit the pause key (to stop the programming; or to take a closer look at the current frame). Don't think there is a right or wrong side of this debate as it applies to the individual's use.

    And I don't want to get into an argument with you over this as, from what I have read of your posts, you seem a level headed guy who does not feel this latest "addition" to be invasive enough to care about.

    But can you say with authority that if everyone just ignores this that there won't be something even more invasive added in the future? I can't... therefore I think it important to go on the record now.
  14. May 15, 2009 #34 of 190

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004
    actually I have said that ads are an inevitable part of a capitalist society and that ads will always seek that place where they get notice and become effective to the one advertising something. Thus ads will be a part of any media I consume without directly paying for the creation of that content.

    So the ads in places on the TiVo that do not make me change how I use the remote to watch a show do not bother me as I see TiVo as being ahead of the curve on the new ground that Ads will seek and find as DVRs make 30 sec spots between content blocks unproductive for advertisers. I can click to go deeper or look right past them as i elect.

    So if I pause a show to look at some detail in a frame - I have in the past hit clear to remove the status bar. I actually learned an slightly easier method of hitting FF after pause and that clears it as well without having to shift my hand to get to the clear button.
  15. May 15, 2009 #35 of 190

    solutionsetc Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    So you'd be ok with having to press a totally separate button to clear a popup taking up a large area of the screen during RW, Advance, and FF?

    What about having to go through and clear another ad filled screen to play one of your recordings (regardlessly whether you pressed the Play key or not)?

    Where is the line in the sand for you? And if one exists, why is it unreasonable for this to be approaching the line in the sand for others?
  16. May 15, 2009 #36 of 190

    SkeeterTV New Member

    Oct 27, 2005
    The ads dont bother me one bit. The ads are in places that do not affect my ability to effectively navigate the UI and they are keeping my subscription rates down. I actually have to go out of my way to click on one if it interests me, which I do because some do interest me.

    When your subscriptions go up an extra 2, 4, 6 dollars a month, how will you feel about revenue driving ads then?
  17. May 15, 2009 #37 of 190

    alansh New Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    My personal "line" would be interstatial ads -- you must watch this ad before you can view your programming.

    Anyway, don't count on Verizon's UI staying ad-free. All the cable-company offered cable boxes I've used have ads in their UI.
  18. May 15, 2009 #38 of 190

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    You watch every single show entirely the way through on one shot? Or always go back to now playing instead of pausing?

    (Answering a probable troll...)
    Reasons I pause:
    1) nature calls
    2) to make note of something on the screen, especially
    2B) Chuck Lorre vanity cards
  19. May 15, 2009 #39 of 190

    SGR215 New Member

    Jan 20, 2004
    I disagree. Unfortunately, many companies refuse to fix a mistake or recognize a problem until you make it a big deal. Making it a "big deal" often involves complaining about it via alternative channels rather than just contacting customer service. I'll agree; we seem to be getting bombarded with these complaints lately but you're directing your anger towards the wrong people. If we're getting bombarded with complaints here it should tell you a lot of people are finding it worth complaining about and are using alternative channels to vent that anger. Tivo does in fact actively monitor these forums; they even provide a link on the Tivo software itself to this very forum. (Found in the 'Tivo Search' beta) So I can't really say I blame people for complaining here.

    I do wish a dedicated sticky could be made regarding all advertising and any other posts regarding it should be merged or locked. Not only would it provide Tivo a single thread to look at if they so choose; it'd also minimize the annoyance of seeing these threads daily.
  20. May 15, 2009 #40 of 190

    bschuler2007 Frustrated owner

    Feb 25, 2007
    Yep and the best defense so far is.. I don't look at the Tivo's screen.. so ads don't bother me.


    If you hit PAUSE not to look at your screen.. fine.. but it is called PAUSE and not STOP. If you want ads.. call it STOP. Pause conveys the full image is visible. This is MISLEADING ADVERTISING then when Tivo says you can PAUSE a live TV show by hitting one button.

    What's next.. hitting REWIND causes a Frito Lay commercial to come on screen and your show starts at the beginning after the commercial.. That's also not REWIND.

    FU TIVO!

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