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Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by backspaces, Sep 28, 2013.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Just hook both to your network. If you don't have a network then you can use a crossover cable and assign both a static IP and that should work.

    The actual process of scheduling all the shows to transfer is a huge PITA. Lots, and lots, of button presses. Plus the S3 units are really slow to transfer so it's going to take a couple days for everything to finish. But once it's done, it's done, and you don't have to worry about it again for at least a few years. :)
     
  2. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    The other more automated option is you can transfer all shows to PC then use pyTivo on demand to watch them on your Roamio.
    For transfers to PC you can queue up all shows to transfer with just a few clicks (in either pyTivo or kmttg).
     
  3. sterfry

    sterfry New Member

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    And

    12) OTA tuners

    If you watch over the air programming the Roamio basic is the only choice.
     
  4. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    Lulz.

    Trust me, on a 75" set the difference is extremely obvious and it isn't particularly close. The point of the stills and close ups is to analyze the degree of difference, which is large, and to understand the composition of the picture for insight into how delivery bandwidth, as distinct from overly simple things like "resolution" impacts picture quality.

    If you're happy with your amazon downloads, wonderful. But please don't mistake what you're watching for the highest picture quality available, or assume that others need be satisfied with it.
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The difference is also very obvious on my 46" set I use at my secondary viewing location.
     
  6. Surrealone

    Surrealone TiVoOnThEmInD

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    I love all the post but I just want my guide button back where it was. :) Oh yes and built MoCa for the MiNi :)
     
  7. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    What model Mini do you have ??, my Mini has built in MoCA, or do you mean bridge MoCA + Ethernet ?
     
  8. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I think the new location for the guide button makes more sense because it is more prominent. But since I use three Slide remotes I need consistency between all my remotes. So I don't typically use the Roamio remote because I will hit the wrong button for the guide.
     
  9. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I agree, and I do not like that my brand new Mini and my brand new Roamio have different remote layouts.

    They just added the Roamio remote to the accessory store, I may get one and just use it in IR mode for my Mini.


    FIRST WORLD ISSUES! :)
     
  10. backspaces

    backspaces New Member

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    Boy, I like the list! I have to admit that the OTA feature being missing on the Plus and Pro was a surprise. In my wilder moments, dreaming of cutting the cable, I would love to have the OTA option. I'm not clear as to why OTA wouldn't be on all devices, are you? I know it'd take a separate tuner, but..

    Cutting the cable is a popular conversation now. Why, for example, isn't there a complete, internet accessable archive of all the shows covering the last month, say. Xfinity/Comcast could easily do so, or simply a new company (HuLu) that provides that service?

    The internet/TV convergence is clearly a Roamio target/response.
     
  11. socrplyr

    socrplyr Active Member

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    Actually it is quite clear. No one makes a 6 tuner OTA chip. Done.
     
  12. Surrealone

    Surrealone TiVoOnThEmInD

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    Oop's I ment bridge + Ethernet

    I have a slide in one room a glo in another room and my roamio remote in another. I agree with it being more prominent and just plain bigger I do like it. I'm just saying can we keep it in the same place it's been for the ten years I have been using a TiVo remotes... I'm just kidding it's more a me thing then a TiVo thing. I love the direction that TiVo is going :up:
     
  13. Surrealone

    Surrealone TiVoOnThEmInD

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    I need a learning remote in my other rooms and for now the glo and slide are all the work for me. So I will wait for the new learning slide remote to come I hope before the holiday shopping time..
     
  14. ggieseke

    ggieseke Active Member

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    +1.
     
  15. backspaces

    backspaces New Member

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    Just got my Roamio and had several annoyances:

    - No HDMI cable!
    When I opened the Roamio box, I was surprised that there was no HDMI cable! WTF? Why? On a $600 device, no video cable? Unbelievable.

    - Tiny serial numbers, MACs etc (2 labels) on back of roamio
    When I beamed into TiVo to register, it needed my serial number. I'd have thought it would be in the box! But no, it was on one of two tiny labels in the back .. which is hard to get to. Solution? Take a iPhone pix and send it to my self! Really? No serial number in the docs? Comcast's m-card receipt had one even.

    - Required knowing channel info, had to switch between tivos
    While setting up metadata for my locale, it asked whether XXX was on channel YYYY. I don't know about you, but one of the points of TiVo is to not NEED that sort of info. Luckily I'm doing what most of us do, have the old TiVo and the new both live. So changing the input and messing around with channel finally satisfied TiVo. Couldn't it just look at my existing TiVo account to figure this out?

    - Required s/w update w/ two reboots!
    This is a brand new TiVo and it still needs long, drawn out downloads and two reboots? Really?

    - Registration:
    It seem to take FOR EVER for the TiVo registration to complete. Why? Is it registering me with NSA? Or the Cable Mafia? 7 Hours and counting.

    I love so much of the TiVo experience, especially this new version. But I'm not sure many people have the know-how to hook up a splitter to have both the old and new devices available during the setup. Or figure out what MoCA is and how to hook hardware ethernet up when the router is in the next room (luckily I'm using ethernet over power line). I'd heard folks talking about the Migration Nightmare but I had no idea it was this bad. And I haven't even started moving the media and metadata from the old to the new.

    I could'a whittled you a better user experience than this! I'm not sure TiVo will survive the new kids on the block like Google's Chromecast or Raspberry PI (both around $35). Yes I know they're geeky and your basic customer can't do anything interesting with them, but a friend recently used a Raspberry PI to build a complete media system! And apparently (according to Comcast) some TVs come with cablecard slots. And no DVR needed.

    Don't wanna be down on TiVo and yes I know this happens once every several years, but gawd help the technically challenged! I wonder if Best Buy will do what Apple does: bring in your computer an we'll do a Migration for you!

    Thanks again for all the help!
     
  16. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    Just a FYI, the serial number is on the box. It is on the white barcode.

    Also they stopped making CableCARD TVs shortly after CableCARDs came out.
     
  17. gigaguy

    gigaguy New Member

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    I like the adjustable buffer (30, 60, or 90 min) on my Sony DHG dvr. 30 min on the Tivo seems small. If Sony could offer that 8 years ago, why not Tivo today? Longer buffer gave me more options to watch or record hour long programs or movies. also user created (and nameable) index marks is a killer feature the Sony had. not to mention the better playback features on the Sony. I still use the Sony for manual recordings, now using TiVo too, I'm even more impressed with the Sony's features and design. I expected more in these areas from TiVo.
     
  18. DeltaOne

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    The serial number was on the box, as the OP mentioned. I didn't see it at first, and read the tiny label on the Roamio. Then found it on the box later. Oops.

    I was put off by having to answer the channel info too. This is my first TiVo, but it still caught me by surprise.

    The software update makes sense. At some point they have to freeze the OS so they can begin manufacturing the hardware. The software engineers don't stop working -- they continue to fix bugs and add new features. Apple released an update to iOS 7 just a few days after iOS 7 was released. And now they say another update will be out soon.

    The long registration is hard to understand. You'd think this process would be automated -- but maybe it requires a human hand?
     
  19. takeagabu

    takeagabu New Member

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    - No HDMI cable!
    Yes, this sucks

    - Tiny serial numbers, MACs etc (2 labels) on back of roamio
    As everyone said, it's on the box.

    - Required knowing channel info, had to switch between tivos
    It is just trying to narrow down what lineup you actually have. The channel is supposed to show up in the background making it really easy.

    - Required s/w update w/ two reboots!
    I think it has to do with the fact that it is formatting the tivo harddrive. This makes the setup process a little longer, but makes it really easy to upgrade or replace your hard drive.

    - Registration:
    Go to the network settings and force a connection. This always expedites things that require communicating with the tivo servers.
     
  20. uw69

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    No HDMI cable is a small thing, but it is really a head scratcher. I mean even the $100 Mini comes with an HDMI cable. Fortunately most of us on the forum probably have several HDMI cables laying around.
     

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