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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 22, 2013 #161 of 3265
    puffdaddy

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    From the software point of view, there's no difference between the base, plus, and pro when it comes to rebuilding the data disk.
     
  2. Aug 22, 2013 #162 of 3265
    Series3Sub

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    Well, they are also selling a SERVICE for those intimidated by such an easy task. I do see your point, but SERVICES will always be the money maker if we don't know DYI. The same for all SERVICE providers.
     
  3. Aug 22, 2013 #163 of 3265
    aaronwt

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    I hope it can work with a 4TB drive. I would like to get the Plus and the 4TB Seagate video drive for $200. Then my cost will be basically the same as getting the Pro. Plus I will still have the 1TB drive to put back in the Plus if needed.
     
  4. Aug 22, 2013 #164 of 3265
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    I fully agree.

    What we have just seen could even be a hoax, for all anyone knows.

    I'M NOT ACCUSING THE POSTER.

    It's just, until we've done it ourselves, or seen some more time go by, like I said earlier, we're celebrating, and we haven't even seen if this unit can record, since they don't have cable service, nor can we know if the drive will fill up with all four tuners working and not run into problems.

    I'm sure this thread alone will go viral, and weaknees will have some 'splainin' to do.

    Let's celebrate once repeated, and fully tested, several times, over the different models...
     
  5. Aug 22, 2013 #165 of 3265
    MeInDallas

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    Before anyone asks or says it, I can confirm that if you take a larger size drive out of a 2 tuner Premiere, say like 2TB and put it into an XL4, boot it up and do a clear and delete everything, when it boots back up again after, it will download the correct software and install it on the drive. I have done this before.

    And dont ask me what that has to do with the price of tea in China :D
     
  6. Aug 22, 2013 #166 of 3265
    amseven11

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    It did it 2 times, first on initial boot then once going through the setup it said a update was available and installed.
     
  7. Aug 22, 2013 #167 of 3265
    puffdaddy

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    Okay, so you should have numbered your questions, but you probably weren't expecting definitive answers. Here they are in context.

    1. The "software" is split between Flash and the Hard disk.

    2. Setup is not really related to rebuilding the "data disk" (harddrive), but much of the information populated and configuration done is recorded on the data disk. So removing the drive after setup and putting in a fresh drive returns you to square one. The unit will power up, see the data drive isn't initialized, will initialize it, complete booting, and go into guided setup.

    3. You can't just copy a drive to a new drive and hope that the tivo will expand to fill the drive. The tivo will regard the new drive as a valid drive and not fiddle with it (and thus not expand it). Likewise, imaging a smaller drive with the recordings and restoring to a new drive has the same effect: no expansion.
     
  8. Aug 22, 2013 #168 of 3265
    puffdaddy

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    Lower probability it's a hoax if someone else previously noted the behavior and asked for confirmation.
     
  9. Aug 22, 2013 #169 of 3265
    innocentfreak

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    So any idea what the 4TB bug might be that Weaknees mentioned? Might TiVo have a limit on expansion capabilities so only would only use 3TB of a 4TB drive.

    Also any thoughts on if this is something TiVo might be able to stop/block in the future?
     
  10. Aug 22, 2013 #170 of 3265
    Millionaire2K

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    What 3TB drive should I try?
     
  11. Aug 22, 2013 #171 of 3265
    innocentfreak

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    I would opt for either the Pipeline series from Seagate or the AV-GP from WD since that is the drive in the Pro.
     
  12. Aug 22, 2013 #172 of 3265
    nooneuknow

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    On the first point: Yes, except they made sure the TiVo HD only accepted approved drives, then kept going with that. If I didn't point it out, somebody else would anyway. I seem to recall a window where the HD allowed the drives, and they let them work, only on the ones that already had them, but I'm not sure on that... So, that raises a question for me. The cat may be out of the bag, but couldn't they grandfather those who upgraded already, then deny the rest?

    On the second point: Yes, I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T crack down hard on denying warranty claims for units that logged tampering. It could save (make) them a lot of money, denying warranty to upgraders. I think I'll re-read their new TOS, which I already plan to opt-out of.
     
  13. Aug 22, 2013 #173 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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  14. Aug 22, 2013 #174 of 3265
    amseven11

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    Here is a quick YouTube video to show its not a 'hoax'
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnNhcmwlyM[/media]
     
  15. Aug 22, 2013 #175 of 3265
    innocentfreak

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    I don't remember that in the TiVo HD at all.
     
  16. Aug 22, 2013 #176 of 3265
    innocentfreak

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    Peel the plastic man, peel the plastic ;).
     
  17. Aug 22, 2013 #177 of 3265
    puffdaddy

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    Now that's a good question. The short answer is, I don't know, but there are a myriad of bugs and issues that can occur towards as one stretches the MFS partitions beyond what tivo has developed to and tested.

    It's something that TiVo could block if they wished.
     
  18. Aug 22, 2013 #178 of 3265
    MeInDallas

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    Thanks!! Its nice to see the menus moving around so fast! :D
     
  19. Aug 22, 2013 #179 of 3265
    amseven11

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    Yeah it kills me I can't watch TV on it but all the screens and everything fly compared to the premiere.
     
  20. Aug 22, 2013 #180 of 3265
    MeInDallas

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    Do you not have any rabbit ears?
     

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