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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

    Feb 5, 2011
    Cox Cable...
    If I had been able to get some of the current prices on the Pro, that I see a lot of talk about just recently, back when I bought my base-models, I'd have bought Pros (if I didn't require OTA as a fallback, should I be forced to cord-cut).

    I did get one bad base-model (out of three), which had bad soldering (or some other internal defect), causing random flakiness on the near 1GHz channels. Luckily, I caught that it was the TiVo (by loosening the coax-in nipple nut and wiggle testing). It was driving me mad. I caught it with just three days to get another one, transfer lifetime service (one time only limit), and return the defective one to retail.

    The rush was to get the new one in-place before the "satisfaction guarantee" ran out on the immediate lifetime service purchase. I couldn't afford to get the money credited, purchase a new plan, then wait for the credit to apply to the card (the alternate way of dealing with such an issue).

    I hear (have read on here) that TiVo works with people that buy direct with such issues (if they don't catch any tampering), but I much prefer swapping out at local stores, until TiVos make the list of non-returnable items (or more restricted) return policies... That's always possible as well.
  2. ort

    ort Member

    Jan 5, 2004
    Gah, 57 pages! Ain't nobody got time for that.

    Can someone just give me just a quick answer to these simple questions, and when the time comes I'll dig up more specific answers... thanks...

    From what I gather, replacing the hard drive on a Roamio Plus is as easy as opening it up, replacing it and booting. Is this true?

    Can you use a 4GB drive?

    A year or two from now, can I pull my old 1TB Hard Drive out of the Roamio, clone it to a 4GB drive and swap them? Will I be able to keep all of my old shows if I make a perfect clone, or is it more complicated than that?
  3. tatergator1

    tatergator1 Active Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    Columbus, Ohio

    No, only a drive from Weaknees will do 4TB. There are a couple of users working on a DIY 4TB process. One has successfully created a 4TB drive for a Premiere.

    Maybe. Perhaps in 6 months tools will be available to deal with drive cloning. Time will tell on that one.
  4. KevinG

    KevinG Member

    Sep 3, 2003
    Mt. Laurel, NJ.
    1) Yes, drop in replacement is all that is needed.
    2) No, you can't use a 4GB drive (that's rather small), or even a 4TB drive. 3TB is the biggest drop-in replacement that will work.
    3) Maybe in a year that will be possible, (but not to a 4GB drive :cool: ) but right now it isn't possible. There are no tools that work on the drives. If nothing changes before you choose to do this, you will have to move all of the stuff that you want to keep off to a PC, drive swap, and then move the stuff back (assuming it isn't copy protected).
  5. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

    May 6, 2002
    I'm not certain that it will ever be possible since even weaKnees isn't offering their "Deluxe Upgrade Service"* on a Roamio.

    * Deluxe Upgrade Service
    We copy your settings and programming to the new drive(s) - you lose nothing! Your capacity will simply increase!
    You will receive an email with shipping instructions after your upgrade order is finalized. $79
  6. ort

    ort Member

    Jan 5, 2004
    Thanks so much guys.

    I have another only semi related question. It was mentioned that you can take all of the files off of a TiVo and then reload them. I used to do this years ago, but stopped because I didn't really have a need for it, beyond the "wow, that's cool" factor.

    I googled around a bit and quickly got confused. A lot of info seems out of date. Can someone point to the best way to do this currently on a Mac running Mavericks?
  7. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

    Apr 6, 2000
    SF Bay Area
  8. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

    Mar 23, 2006
    So what is the best 2tb drive model to use?
  9. KevinG

    KevinG Member

    Sep 3, 2003
    Mt. Laurel, NJ.
    No. kmttg.

    PyTivo lets you pull videos from a server, or push them to the tivo.

    He wants the reverse.... kmttg which pulls from the tivo.
  10. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

    Apr 6, 2000
    SF Bay Area
    PyTivo does both directions. Pull from a PC to Tivo (from the playlist). Pull from the Tivo to PC. Push from PC to Tivo.

    KMTTG is one direction only. Downloads video from Tivo. There is a Push but it uses PyTivo for that function.
  11. Feb 1, 2014 #1691 of 3288

    KevinG Member

    Sep 3, 2003
    Mt. Laurel, NJ.
    Indeed, you are correct. I just never used pyTivo for that, since I have to manually select each show. kmttg allows you to automate it.

    Since the OP wants to back up everything, it still seems that kmttg would be the better choice. No?
  12. JS2003

    JS2003 New Member

    Jan 10, 2004
    Just upgraded my Roamio to 3TB and I was amazed at how easy it was! Just take out the 500GB drive and pop in the new one. I wasn't trying to save any programming, so there was absolutely no drive preparation involved. I didn't even have to re-pair my Comcast cable card or reactivate it or anything. Just ran Guided Setup and it was ready to go in no time!

    I've ugraded Tivos going back to a small fleet of Series II machines, so I wasn't prepared for how simple this was.

    The hardest part was getting open the case. All the instructions I've seen mentioned "sliding" open the case after removing the screw in the back. There was no sliding whatsoever going on, and it wasn't until I found a Youtube video (under "open Roamio") that I saw the lid had to be pried out. I could have tried sliding the lid forward all night and I don't think it would have budged. But with just a little prying on the sides, the lid popped of easily. If you're having trouble opening the case, trust me, just look for the video.

    I am so impressed with the evolution of Tivo hardware. This machine is by far the easiest Tivo I hsve upgraded.
  13. russg

    russg UID=0

    Apr 14, 2002
    Newport News VA
    I've searched around and don't see anything that directly answers my question.
    I have Verizon FiOS and am considering upgrading to a 3TB drive. Do you have to call anyone or re-pair the cablecard after the upgrade? Should you remove the cablecard while the system formats and prepares and then install it when it asks for it?
  14. bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

    Dec 1, 2000
    Silicon Valley
    I don't think that's true. Better check your pay channels if you have any… I don't think the pairing info carries over. I wish it did, but i don't think so… :(
  15. Rob_W

    Rob_W New Member

    Jan 30, 2014
    I did this recently. I had to call Verizon and re-pair after I upgraded the drive. I did not remove the cable card during the process.
  16. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    My memory seems to be telling me that someone said you only need to pair on FiOS if you have premium channels. But I might have dreamed it who knows :p
  17. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    This is true for Comcast at least for the first 45 days. The system used in CT Comcast using Moto cable cards have a 45 to 60 day time out, if the card does not receive any commination from the mother ship the card will shut down, a non-paired card will not receive any commination so it will shut down, a pared card left unplugged for say 60 days will also be shut down, you have to call and have a signal sent to the card to turn it back on again (not a re-pair signal), or you can leave it plug in for a few days and than it will turn on itself. YMNV
  18. HenryFarpolo

    HenryFarpolo Member

    Dec 1, 2008
    Andover Ma
    When I upgraded I did not have to re-pair. Everything worked fine even the premiums, with the exception of HBO/Cinemax which is the same issue many of us had with the initial Roamio install. A call to Verizon resolved the issue.
  19. russg

    russg UID=0

    Apr 14, 2002
    Newport News VA
    Thanks for all the replies, I really appreciate.
  20. spaldingclan

    spaldingclan Member

    Aug 22, 2012
    I didn't have to re-pair! but I'm on antennae only

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