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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I can see you're unacquainted with Time-Warner's habit of setting the anti-copy bit on every channel they can, and sometimes even the ones that they aren't supposed to.
     
  2. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    There is that.
     
  3. HoOn

    HoOn New Member

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    Hello everyone everyone! I'm getting my Roamio Plus in two days and wanted to ask what the general consensus is here about whether to upgrade now or later when the drive is closer to full?

    Thanks
     
  4. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Since there is currently no known way to copy & expand a Roamio drive...
     
  5. Surrealone

    Surrealone TiVoOnThEmInD

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    Unless you want to walk through the setup twice I would say take it out of the box DO NOT PLUG IT IN open the case remove the drive install new drive and save yourself the time of doing it later. :) It really is that simple. plug it in turn it on and ready to go TiVo!!!!!!
     
  6. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    'course you void the warranty when you do that.
     
  7. ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

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    Do this. The fact that it does a full install on a blank drive all on its own is the best new feature they added.

    If you need warranty service, pop in the original drive and the warranty is perfectly intact (unless you tell them you did that).

    Ignore this guy.

     
  8. kucharsk

    kucharsk New Member

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    I thought when the unit contacts TiVo they know the model and size of the drive, and since they don't sell say a 3 TB Roamio…
     
  9. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    While in the past, TiVo has usually honored the warranty in those circumstances, there is no guaranty that they will continue to do so. The fact that you think that TiVo won't know that you swapped out the drives at some point proves that you are the one who should be ignored.

    I'm not saying don't do it, just that the OP should be aware there is at least some risk to doing so.
     
  10. ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

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    I haven't seen any evidence they would use those logs to void the warranty. Then again, never had any need for any warranty service on the 20 or more TiVos I've had and upgraded for others.

    On all but a few of those I upgraded before ever plugging them in. And that's SO easy to do now with the Roamio.

    Paranoia is not needed here.
     
  11. ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

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    I acknowledged that. I said it wasn't enough risk to avoid doing the right thing here.

    Now…where's that ignore button on here again?
     
  12. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    :rolleyes:
     
  13. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Ummmmmm.......the Roamio Pro is 3TB :rolleyes:
     
  14. kucharsk

    kucharsk New Member

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    I can't get my Roamio Basic open!!

    I removed the Torx screw, then I can get the back of the cover above the jacks to pop up about 1/8" and then…*nothing.

    I can bend, prod, or whatever but the cover isn't moving forward, side to side or in general going anywhere.

    All I can do is pop up the back edge or seat it back down, that's it.

    Help!
     
  15. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Does this post help?
     
  16. kucharsk

    kucharsk New Member

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    Finally got it open; I just had to use more force than I expected.

    Thankfully the clips aren't exceptionally fragile.
     
  17. ltxi

    ltxi New Member

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    ....really?

    Roamios were built to allow for easy drive swaps....whether for TiVo's maintenance benefit or the user's.....don't matter. As historically always, changing drives will not void the warranty.
     
  18. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Where do you get that? Technically, just opening the box voids the warranty.
    I think what you meant to say was "TiVo does not aggressively look for upgraded hard drives".

    TiVo has denied warranty claims because of upgraded hard drives before. Granted, it was most likely because the user admitted they upgraded the hard drive when they contacted TiVo, but still...
     
  19. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    +1 :up:

    Some people will always persist in making claims they have no way to back up.

    I was denied TECHNICAL SUPPORT on more than one occaision, on more than one TiVo, of different models, due to a CSR Rep looking through my logs and noticing the drive had been changed.

    It's not a stretch to figure they could also do the same for warranty claims (I've never had to make any directly through TiVo, as I was in the return to retail store window, in all defective TiVo instances).

    TiVo has every right to do so. I still do drive upgrades anyway.

    TiVo already has all the legalese in-place (has been in-place for years now) in the TOS/User Agreement/Policies, to deny both tech support, and warranty claims, if the device has been tampered with, modified, or serviced by an unauthorized party. All they'd need to do is actually enforce what every one of us agrees to when we activate our TiVos.

    For the record, I'm not one of the unnamed (if they exist) people, who always get mentioned as "blabbing/bragging/telling TiVo that I did anything to mine". It seems like somebody just assumed that must have been the case, and it keeps getting added by those who say "Go ahead, upgrade, no worries, just do what you want, nothing bad can come of it if you keep the original drive around", when somebody corrects them.

    What's annoying is the same person (and a few other repeat offenders) keeps saying the "no worries" line, despite being corrected by dozens of others, over and over, every chance they get to give dangerous assurances, that they can't back-up will work for everybody, all the time, in all cases/scenarios.

    I'm usually the first one stating all this, as my own personal experience, and that YMMV.

    People have a right to know all this. IMHO, posts claiming "no worries", without appropriate disclaimers, should be removed by the mods.

    The worst of offenders don't even put "YMMV", in their posts. I'd "ignore list" them, if I didn't feel the need to shield newcomers and novices from taking such posts as a green light to void their warranty. Just because somebody gets support now, or got warranty service, yesterday, doesn't mean their warranty wasn't technically and legally void, just that TiVo did not catch it and/or enforce the terms (which TiVo can begin doing any time they want).
     
  20. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    And I had warranty support denied on a launch TiVo HD in 2007. So I put the original drive back in and exchanged it for another one at Circuit City.

    I have no plans to upgrade the drives in either of my Roamios yet.
     

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