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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Jan 6, 2014 #1601 of 3265
    el aye

    el aye New Member

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    Tiger Direct. There was a $25 off $100 "clearance" rebate and $30 rebate on the Seagate 2tb drive. The $100.00 price only lasted for like a day and it wasn't really advertised.
     
  2. Jan 8, 2014 #1602 of 3265
    abeln2672

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    Yup, this. Saw it on SlickDeals and jumped on it right away, thinking it would be perfect for my Tivo. Ummm...


    Sorry for the delay in replying. I live in Indy and was one of the lucky 60,000 to lose power. Ours was out almost 3 days, so we've been hotel-bound and JUST got back home today. Whew.

    Anyway, I haven't stuck the drive back in after zero'ing it, but I'll do so later tonight. I'm in total agreement with you that it seems to be a power issue. That was actually my first thought when I put it in and listened (much like you), but I figured that was foolish...why would a big ol' Tivo unit not put out enough power for a HD? That said, since you're experiencing the same issues and seeing the same results, I'm afraid that's probably the cause. In which case, I'm not near enough expert to figure it out. Let me know if you made any progress, though!
     
  3. Jan 8, 2014 #1603 of 3265
    DocNo

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    7200 RPM is going to definitely draw too much juice, especially for the tiny wall wart my Raomio Basic came with. Nevermind the heat concerns I would have with a 7200 RPM drive. Way, way overkill.

    The 5400 RMP WD Red's would be what I would be putting in if I didn't already have an extra 3TB Hitachi that I poached from my NAS. The last couple of times I have ordered Red drives I got them for the same price as other drives. And Red's have one critical feature that will ensure they will be the only drives I ever buy from now on - bearings on both ends of the shaft that the platters spin on. Previously only SAS or Fibre Channel drives had that design feature, SATA drives only had bearings on one end - the end of the shaft with the motor, the other end is just "out there". Hence the huge difference in mean time between failure (MTBF) for SAS/FC drives and SATA drives. For a slight premium, at most, or the same price if you just catch 'em on sale getting any drive other than a red is idiotic IMNSHO at this point....
     
  4. Jan 9, 2014 #1604 of 3265
    HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Paradise...
    I had a 7200 Barracuda in my Roamio that seemed to run perfectly fine, but you make valid points.
     
  5. Jan 9, 2014 #1605 of 3265
    StevesWeb

    StevesWeb Grumpy Old Geek

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    Those WD Red drives are great, I used them for backup drives in the last two webservers I built.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2014 #1606 of 3265
    A J Ricaud

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    Hacienda...
  7. Jan 9, 2014 #1607 of 3265
    lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    I purchased that exact drive from Newegg at that price (free shipping) in November 2013.
     
  8. Jan 9, 2014 #1608 of 3265
    alyssa

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    With regards to the amount of time between powering up a new Plus and upgrading,
    How much time did others allow to make sure the tivo was functioning well?
     
  9. Jan 9, 2014 #1609 of 3265
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Let's see....

    Tivo S3 HD652... 5-6 min until the startup video
    Roamio.... 3 min.
     
  10. Jan 9, 2014 #1610 of 3265
    alyssa

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    haha

    ok...then i should drop the new drive in before i pair the card. it's been up & running for half a day & seems to be working as it should.

    a couple of years ago i didn't power up my xl, paired an external with it & *then* found out one of the tuner lights wasn't working.
     
  11. Keen

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    Personally, before swapping a hard drive, I would:
    1) Power it on and wait until it fully boots through the Welcome video.
    2) Get through Guided Setup (this includes a connection to Tivo's server, IIRC).
    3) Pair the CableCard.
    4) Record 4/6 things at once to use every tuner.

    This ensures the device is fully working in all the ways that are important to me.
     
  12. alyssa

    alyssa Active Member

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    hummmm

    good idea to record something with each tuner

    weighted against a second phone call to tw cc tech support...<lol>

    too good a suggestion to over look thx Keen
     
  13. vurbano

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    2 TivoHd units, 3 premiere units and now a Roamio plus and Ive upgraded them all. Ive never ever used anything but WD AV-GP type drives. They are very quiet, low power, low heat, fast enough (no reason for 7200 RPM) and capable of multiple simultaneous streams with ease. I have had ZERO failures and the TivoHD's are still going.
     
  14. danmasi

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    Thinking about getting rid of my current S3 in favor of a 3TB Roamio. With specials now, price diff between a Plus and Pro is $150, which is getting close to the cost of a 3TB WD AV-GP; so it's almost a wash as to whether I buy a Plus and upgrade immediately, or just buy a Pro.

    Question is, do we know what kind of disks TiVo is using? Is there an advantage to upgrading the HD yourself in that perhaps you have a better quality (more reliable?) disk that way?
     
  15. alyssa

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    WD 10eurx
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    Reading it of the drive I just took out of my plus
     
  16. danmasi

    danmasi New Member

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    Thanks... that's the AV-GP drive. So, just as easy to buy a Pro at this price point. -d
     
  17. alyssa

    alyssa Active Member

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    just a data point and a question

    i just upgraded my plus to a pro. went smooth, simplest tivo upgrade ever

    i did guided set up with the stock hdd
    I paired the cc & ta with with the stock hdd
    tested the tuners
    swapped out the drives with a 3tb unit
    powered it up & repeated guided set up

    i did not have to repair the cc. i'm even getting the switched vid channels


    question, with kmttg, is it possible transfer all my recordings that are transferable from my old tivo to the new one? i've been beating my head against the wall trying to figure it out. I got my SP moved over.

    assuming i have space, the shows aren't copyrighted etc
     
  18. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Yes, once sub, MAK is confirmed on the box.

    KMTTG does not send back to Tivo, It use PyTivo for that job.
     
  19. alyssa

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    please, can you point me in the right direction?
    Not for the MAK- it seems to be in place on my new tivo
     

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