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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Marin

    Marin New Member

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    Just got a basic and am going to upgade the Hd. I got a good deal on a 3tb green but the model# is WDBAAY0030HNL. Will this be ok or should I get the WD30EURS from ebay? The difference is around $40.
     
  2. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    I cannot find that model # anywhere, even on the WD site. The closest is the WDBAAY0030HNC.

    Are you saying you got this drive for $75? Is it new, used or refurbished?
     
  3. Marin

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    I could not find it either. It looks like an older model that was being closed out at BB. Yes I got it for 85 but not sure if it is worth it or to spend the extra and get the av model from ebay or amazon. And yes it is new in box as far as I can tell not opened. Checked again and the model# is correct.
     
  4. lpwcomp

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    It will probably work but you may have to run wdidle3 on it, which requires connecting it to your computer via SATA. A USB connection won't work.

    Unless you're planning return it, you could always try it in the Roamio and see.
     
  5. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    I used an old Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB HD and had no issues whatsoever. Worth a try I'd say.
     
  6. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Western Digital WD‎ Elements 3TB USB 2.0 Hard Drive.

    This will not work.
     
  7. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    It will if you take the internal drive out and use that.

    I often go this route, as I can often get the external for ~$40 less than the bare drive that is inside, both retail and mail-order, like Newegg.

    I've done it with TiVo HD, TiVo Premiere, and TiVo Roamio base.

    The internal drive will be a 3TB WD30EZRX, unless WD isn't being consistent with what they put inside (in my experience, they have been consistent). That is a Green drive, without the unnecessary AV features (no TiVo, to date, uses that feature set). The EZRX line, however, does not support AAM (acoustic management), so forget trying to change the settings. The fans in my base Roamios sound like mini jet engines, at all times, no matter what drive is in them (I've tried many), so you need not worry about being able to hear the drive seeking. The fan noise is less insanity-invoking with the low-profile stock Seagate 500GB drives. But that's not what this thread is about. It's about upgrades.

    Other than a year shorter warranty, for being an external drive, I see no downside. If you take your time, and use the right tools, you can open and re-close the enclosure, with zero signs of tampering, should the drive fail within warranty.

    An added bonus is being able to use the enclosure with other low operating temperature WD (Green/Red) drives you may have laying around. This particular enclosure doesn't encrypt the drive contents, and seems to work with any modern WD drive. I often just use the SATA to USB bridge board, and not the plastic case.
     
  8. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    That is exactly what I did with my barracuda.
     
  9. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    How exactly did you determine this? When I google "WDBAAY0030HNL", a WD external drive does come up but the model is "WDBAAU0030HBK".
     
  10. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Part Number vs. Model Number? Both are on my WD Elements external drive cases, and could easily be transposed, if not being observant and cautious.
     
  11. Marin

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  12. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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  13. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    That will work. It's not the best price, and you don't need SATA3 (nor will having it make any difference, for better or for worse), but if "Will it work?" is the only question. That drive will work just as well as any other Green drive.

    I've already stated the "AV" line isn't necessary, just preferred by most (one year longer warranty being the biggest reason).

    I've decided that I'm going with WD Red NAS, so long as I find them at near-equal or lesser price, for all my future DVR and NAS needs. WD Red NAS drives have many elements: Green (despite being called Red), low-heat, quiet, low-vibration, 3-year warranty, and the best performance you'll get from a "green" low-RPM drive. They also support the ATA streaming command feature set (AV-rated), but I could care less about that. They also are designed to work in RAID arrays, which Green and Green-AV drives don't work well, if at all, in, if you decide to use them for one. I almost forgot to mention 3-year warranty.
     
  14. ltxi

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    It's a curse of age. At least I no longer do paper.....the basement was getting really full.
     
  15. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    People with e-readers have never seen a real paper-based book. :D
     
  16. lpwcomp

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    I prefer the physical book but I wish that it included a digital copy so I could read it on my phone when I'm out and about, especially in low light conditions.
     
  18. ltxi

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    The thing that finally pried the paper books out of my cold, old hands was Stephen King's "Under The Dome". High mileage, carry on luggage business traveler and a week out of town's reading fitting into my briefcase.....when I finally accepted them, Kindle readers came as a relief.

    Much like TiVo in 2000 replacing my VCR.

    And indoor plumbing replacing the outhouse back when I was a kid....:cool:
     
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    DocNo

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    If someone else already point this out in this long thread then feel free to ignore this. For anyone else reading this thread, on Windows you can use Diskpart.exe to clean a drive - no special utility needed.

    Personally, because I'm paranoid (and have wiped out drives I didn't mean to in the past!) I use the Windows graphical disk management utility to verify the disk number. Once you use the clean command on a disk it's done - wiped out! So a little paranoia can be a healthy thing :)

    Once I have confirmed the disk number for the disk I want to clean, I launch an elevated command prompt, type diskpart, type select disk x where x is the disk I want to clean. I type list disk to ensure that the disk I really want is selected (has an asterix next it) and that the size and everything matches what I want (measure twice, cut once) and then finally type clean.

    That's it - there is NO warning so be doubly sure you select the right disk! Once cleaned the drive should work in your Tivo with no problem. Type exit to exit diskpart and then type exit again to close the command line shell if you are done with it. Power down and move the drive into your Tivo and enjoy!
     
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    DocNo

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    That was a great deal, and I seriously considered getting the Pro - but at the end of the day I stuck with the basic because I may still ditch cable and just go over the air. I was elated to see OTA come back at least in the Roamio basic!
     

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