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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 22, 2013 #121 of 3265
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    You could always set it to Antenna/OTA-only, then put a big custom bent paperclip into the coax center hole. :D
     
  2. Aug 22, 2013 #122 of 3265
    amseven11

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    Ive never had a red drive how are they? I've always had good luck with WD green drives in directv boxes which is why I went with the same thing for Roamio.
     
  3. Aug 22, 2013 #123 of 3265
    TC25D

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    Why not use the same drive?
     
  4. Aug 22, 2013 #124 of 3265
    MeInDallas

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    This is what the newer Motorola boxes do. They store the bare minimum on flash and then when you put a new drive in, it will format it and begin download from the head end the software for the box. Its limited to 1TB drive somehow, so putting anything in a Motorola box will only format out 1TB. I hope Tivo didnt do this.
     
  5. Aug 22, 2013 #125 of 3265
    MeInDallas

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    You might wanna stick with the EURS models for DVR's, they are the only ones left that have AAM settings on them.
     
  6. Aug 22, 2013 #126 of 3265
    Goober96

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    In that case would this be a good 3TB drive to use?
    http://www.amazon.com/AV-GP-3TB-Vid...=UTF8&qid=1377220828&sr=8-1&keywords=Wd30eurs
    What would be recommendations on what drive to get (3TB or larger)?
     
  7. Aug 22, 2013 #127 of 3265
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    I actually remember taking apart an old server that had drives as tall as they were wide (roughly). They were SCSI drives, in raid (IIRC), and the tower was at least 4 feet tall.

    Then, only 15 years ago, I actually worked at a place where the drives were single platters, about 2 feet wide, 1/2" thick, and encased in a "pack" that looked like a flying saucer, and weighed about 30 pounds. Each day I had to take one out and install the "scratch pack", which somehow worked as a backup system...

    God, do I feel old...
     
  8. Aug 22, 2013 #128 of 3265
    jmpage2

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    The EURS drives have the profile that is DVR optimized. However, RED drives have similar "always on, always writing" characteristics.... they are designed for NAS applications.... they also use low power, run cool and are very quiet.
     
  9. Aug 22, 2013 #129 of 3265
    MeInDallas

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    This is so awesome, I hope that the other Tivo models do the same thing :D
     
  10. Aug 22, 2013 #130 of 3265
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    GoHokies!

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    I don't think that I record anything in SD anymore, but over 2,000 hours of SD recordings makes my head utterly spin.
     
  12. Aug 22, 2013 #132 of 3265
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    IIRC, the RED line has the best warranty, and roughly the same power profile as a "Green" model (if always running), but dual-processors and higher performance, without having to run at high RPMs.
     
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    aaronwt

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    innocentfreak

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    I have read in the past to avoid Red drives for DVRs and Media Center. I want to say it had something to do with how they handled errors since they were designed for RAID environments.

    Now someone needs to try this on the Plus.

    In some ways this makes sense. The MSOs can easily repair their units. Also they can easily field upgrade them rather than needing new hardware.

    One thing that concerns me a bit is if there is no negative to doing it this way, why doesn't Weaknees have "upgrade" drives ready to go? If they don't do anything different to them, they should be able to just sell bare drives.

    They told Zatz
     
  15. Aug 22, 2013 #135 of 3265
    innocentfreak

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    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    I, nooneuknow, hereby foresee a spike in 2 & 3 TB drive sales, along with shortages of the TiVo Roamio (basic), and a sudden price shift in the other models.

    Either that, or TiVo will quickly start limiting the size the drive will yield, by modifying their servers/software, before too many of these can happen...

    Either they were just dumb, while actually being innovative and smart, and this wasn't foreseen (or was a programming error), or I don't know how this can be?
     
  18. Aug 22, 2013 #138 of 3265
    jmpage2

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    Well, maybe they caught some glitch that we don't know about yet with just popping in a bare drive and going to the races.

    On the flip side, they are in business to make money, so if they can sell some "drive kits" at a profit before everyone and their grandma knows how to upgrade a TiVo then tip of the hat to them.
     
  19. Aug 22, 2013 #139 of 3265
    innocentfreak

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    I guess that is my point. Why not sell the kits immediately? I guess they might need to order the T8s since they include tools.

    It could also be they knew how easy it was and didn't want the backlash when someone tried it.
     
  20. Aug 22, 2013 #140 of 3265
    Dan203

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    As I said in another thread this was probably added for their MSO partners. Competing MSO DVRs have this same feature. It makes it easy for the MSO to repair a broken unit by simply popping in a new drive and redeploying the unit. That's probably why they went with the external power brick on the Basic too. All about ease of maintenance for their MSO partners.
     

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