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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    kmttg alone doesn't get him what he needs since it doesn't by itself provide a mechanism for getting the recordings back to the TiVo.
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Does block 0 come before the partition map partition?
     
  3. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    Yes
     
  4. ggieseke

    ggieseke Active Member

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    Getting it to boot at all was cool, but making it USE that extra space is what I'm working on now. More in a few weeks.
     
  5. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Is that where they hide the bootpage?
     
  6. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    Not sure what you are asking. Block0 basically has a TiVo identifier, info on which partition to boot off of, and some other identifying information.
     
  7. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I think that's what they call the bootpage, cause that's supposed to be where they keep the which partitions to boot from info that gets re-written if there's a software upgrade sent down the line.
     
  8. ggieseke

    ggieseke Active Member

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    That's it, and it's always the first 512 bytes on the drive. The first two bytes are an identifier (0x1492), the next two bytes identify the primary and alternate Root partitions, and that's followed by a 128 character boot parameter field. The primary and alternate partitions are usually 3 & 6 or vice versa.

    Earlier models have some additional fields with the name, IP address and MAC address. Premieres and Roamios don't bother with that, but they have a 16 byte field that seems to be unique to each drive.
     
  9. ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

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    Newegg has a special on this 3TB red WD drive (WD30EFRX) again. A TCF user above said "quietest ever" and has it in his Roamio.

    Newegg Item #: N82E16822236344

    Western Digital Red NAS Hard Drive WD30EFRX 3TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive


    coupon Code: EMCYTZT4579
     
  10. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I don't know what "quietest ever" means, but I can hear a Red drive like any other hard drive out there. They still make noise.
     
  11. Crrink

    Crrink Active Member

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    It may be a reference to one of my posts - I put a Red drive in my Roamio Basic, and I can only hear the hum of the drive with my ear a few inches from the case, and I can't hear this drive seek. Compared to the ~2 year old Green AV drive that is in the TiVo HD this Basic replaced, the Red drive is much quieter - for me it's essentially undetectable in the room. I could hear the TiVo HD seeking if it was very quiet otherwise.

    ...by "seeking" I mean the ticking noises you can hear when a drive is reading/writing data.
     
  12. cosmicvoid

    cosmicvoid Tivo noob

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    FYI, in light of Amazon's decision to jack up the price of a WD30EURS from $135 to $145, you can get them for $125 from Provantage.
     
  13. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Amazon prices are always in a state of flux. They can change multiple times during the course of a day sometimes. And it's certainly not unusual for the price to change daily
     
  14. shortcut3d

    shortcut3d New Member

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    Anandtech compared NAS drives about a week ago. The lowest noise db rating went to the Seagate NAS drive. I have the 3TB Seagate NAS drive in my Roamio Plus and can barely hear it. It's definitely not silent, but also not disruptive. YMMV
     
  15. Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

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    Has anyone put an upgraded drive in here and THEN plugged in one of the extenders? If one already has a 3TB drive in the TiVo and then plugs in a 1TB external, will it cause a problem?

    I remember reading about problems with 4TB earlier on in this thread, was just curious.
     
  16. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    The only problem with what you are describing is that you are introducing a single point of failure in your system. If the extender fails or gets disconnected you will lose everything on both drives.

    Extenders are a poor value proposition from the perspective of reliability of your TiVo recordings.

    From a technical perspective there should not be a problem with adding an extender to a 3TB TiVo.
     
  17. imacericg

    imacericg New Member

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    Does upgrading hard drives void the Tivo warranty?

    So if I plan to upgrade and want an extended warranty, I should check out SquareTrade?
     
  18. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Yes, if they find out, but its only 90 days.
     
  19. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    Has anyone stuck a THD or Premiere upgraded HDD straight into the Roamio and saw what happens?

    I certainly don't expect it to "work" or retain any data, but I'm curious if the Roamio freaks out in any way (hangs/looping reboots) or just treats it like a blank drive?
     
  20. lessd

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    Treats it like a blank drive, no problem
     

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