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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Swapped in the same WD30EURS into my base Roamio on Wednesday. I purchased the Amazon Warehouse deal return for $125 and it works great.
     
  2. magnox

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    WD30EZRX - $82 on amazon right now.
     
  3. kbmb

    kbmb Active Member

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    Good to know it was easy. Guessing you just installed the drive and everything came back without having to re-do Guided Setup?

    How does Tivo view people putting in their own drives when it comes to warranty issues? Do you keep the old one around incase you need to have warranty work done to the unit itself?

    -Kevin
     
  4. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    No, you will have to re-do guided setup after replacing the drive and you will lose all of the recordings.

    TiVo EULA does say that opening the unit voids the warranty. If you volunteer that you've monkeyed with the system then they might refuse warranty work.... or if you send a unit back with a non factory drive they also might refuse warranty work. From a warranty perspective the safest thing to do would be to keep the original drive, and not boast to them on the phone (as apparently someone here did) that you've replaced/upgraded the device when asking for warranty work to be done.
     
  5. kbmb

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    Ah ok.....so I'm guessing all settings and season passes etc are lost as well. Does anyone know.....can you re-download season passes from Tivo.com after or does that get wiped once the new drive is in and the Tivo connects to the service?

    As for the warranty...thanks. Kind of like the Apple warranty.....which is why I keep old RAM around just in case they refuse work with 3rd party RAM.

    -Kevin
     
  6. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    I realize that this is a long thread, but everything you are asking has already been covered, so you might do a search.

    When you replace the drive you lose everything, including SPs, etc. You can re-transfer your SPs using tivo.com as far as I know. I just replaced my drive the day I got the box so I didn't have to mess around with losing everything later on.
     
  7. kbmb

    kbmb Active Member

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    Sorry to make you waste your time.

    I thought I read conflicting information, but after going through the thread again I see it's just like upgrading in the past......you lose everything including CC pairing. Only the upgrade process doesn't require a special drive with the Tivo software already on it.

    So I'm guessing there is no way to transfer season passes to a new drive since Tivo.com only allows copying from 1 Tivo to another.....since there is only 1 on the account, I'm guessing after the first time the upgraded Tivo connects....it'll wipe all the season passes. Looking like kmttg if probably the best solution to copy SP for an upgraded drive.


    -Kevin
     
  8. Gary-B

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    After you add the new Tivo to your account, you can just transfer season passes from the on-line Season Pass Manager to the new box.
     
  9. markp99

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    Yep, just like upgrading in the past, except as you note, no special format/setup on the new drive. Nice!

    I had a 2nd TiVo to move off my SPs. I then moved them back again with new drive inserted @ TiVo.com.

    As you note, kmttg is a perfect option to take your SPs offline for the upgrade.
     
  10. jmpage2

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    In respect to wanting to "upgrade" a drive you've already been using to a new drive and you want to preserve everything then yes, the new upgrade process is not much improved over the old one where special tools needed to be use to transfer settings, recordings, etc, over to a new drive.

    The advantage (and it's a big one) is if you simply want to add capacity by way of a larger drive, don't mind losing things and re-running the setup.... for that all you have to do now is physically install a disk. That's a huge win for many of us... and also makes replacement in the event of a drive failure issue a snap.

    Could TiVo make it so that the SPs, cable-card pairing, and many other things were written to flash for a drive swap out? Probably... but look at it this way, the primary reason they probably made the drive easy to swap out was for MSOs.... and those MSOs might actually look at that as a dis-advantage. If a customer brings in a TiVo or a TiVo has a problem they can just put a bare drive in and "bam" new TiVo.
     
  11. kbmb

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    Not a new Tivo.....a drive replacement on the same Tivo.


    Thanks for all the info. Guessing Tivo won't ever allow you to backup your season passes since "upgrading" is not entirely allowed.

    -Kevin
     
  12. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Short of creating an officially sanctioned "cloning" tool (or uploading potentially TBs worth of shows to the internet) I don't see how TiVo could make that happen.
     
  13. kbmb

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    No doubt it's a huge win. No longer would I have to order a special drive from eBay just to upgrade.

    Would love for Tivo to make drives easily swappable.

    -Kevin
     
  14. kbmb

    kbmb Active Member

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    No, not backing up shows themselves....just the passes.

    -Kevin
     
  15. tivogurl

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    Memory is considered a user-serviceable item under Apple's warranty. It doesn't void your warranty.
     
  16. kbmb

    kbmb Active Member

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    Correct....but Apple reps will almost immediately blame any 3rd party components in the system....RAM being one of them. I've experienced it first hand and it was just easier to put the stock memory back in than argue with them.

    -Kevin
     
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    Tivogre

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    Has anyone made any progress into (or is anyone even still working on) how Weaknees cracked the 4tb puzzle?

    I'm wanting to upgrade from 5 premieres to 2 Roamios and 3 Minis. I'd really love to do 4tb in each of them.

    I was hoping the Community would come through (like they always do), but no news for a while...

    If I broke down and bought one 4tb unit from Weaknees, would I be able to clone the drive to to a second blank drive? Any ideas what tools might work for that?
     
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    lpwcomp

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    To me, the significance of the 4TB upgrade kits that weaKnees is offering is that it means that you can install a pre-configured drive in an S5, making it very likely tools can be developed that enable you to upgrade one that has been in use for a while and keep all of your settings and recordings.
     
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    morac

    morac Cat God

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    For what it's worth Weaknees now has 8 TB update kits (two drives).
     
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    jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Indeed. For those who want to store 1200+ hours of HD but aren't worried about the chance of either drive failing, taking the whole lot with it.
     

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