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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Sep 6, 2013 #981 of 3265
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    I just checked that link. You are correct. That would not be an ideal drive, or recommended. You should avoid "mainstream" desktop drives.

    Generally, the Green drives come in Green boxes, and say Green all over the place. The Red NAS drives will also specify what they are. Both should be available at Best Buy, especially the Green ones. I don't think I've ever seen a Green AV (AV-GP) drive at Best Buy, except for the ones that come inside the special DVR expander external drives.
     
  2. Sep 6, 2013 #982 of 3265
    HeatherA

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    I can't find anything on their website so I will head over after work and see. Thanks for the additional information. It's very helpful.
     
  3. Sep 6, 2013 #983 of 3265
    vurbano

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    I didnt even have to remove the drive brackets and HD from the unit in my plus. Some fingers holding the dirve and the small torx driver was able to turn the screws that attach the drive to the bracket in place.
     
  4. Sep 6, 2013 #984 of 3265
    HeatherA

    HeatherA Old AVS Forum Member

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    Actually may stop and buy this one today at microcenter
     
  5. Sep 6, 2013 #985 of 3265
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    Ok, you found the 3TB Green non-AV with SATA3. That should work. The only thing missing is the AV-rating, which as you already know, will likely not be an issue, since others have tried non-AV already.

    You will very likely have to use the wdidle3.exe utility to disable auto head parking (Intellipark). Search around the other threads about how to use it, and why you may need to (requires using a PC and a making a boot CD to disable, before installing in the TiVo).

    This is another thing I might have mentioned (if I had remembered) in my earlier help, since the AV-GP drives come with it disabled already, making it less work, and more certain instant gratification (drop in TiVo and GO).
     
  6. Sep 6, 2013 #986 of 3265
    TC25D

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    You 'crapped on' Weaknees by accusing them of not having a conscience based on the price of their upgraded devices and kits.

    Other people, who don't have you on their ignore list, will see this and could come to the conclusion they are a disreputable company to do business with, which they are not.

    I am grateful there are two options with the Roamio; a DIY option, for those who feel comfortable opening up the case and an 'off the shelf' option from Weakness for those who do not.
     
  7. Sep 6, 2013 #987 of 3265
    swerver

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    The amount saved by diy'ing a hdd upgrade vs. weaknees service is about about $30-50. The cost of a new lifetimed tivo is $600-1000. Most people spending that kind of money won't mind that quite negligible difference considering the large overall price, in fact they'll appreciate it. This is because most people don't want to go anywhere near the inside of a tivo. Weaknees is for them. If you wanna diy (for the record I upgraded my premiere myself and plan to do my roamio plus eventually) then go ahead. Who cares what other people want to do?
     
  8. Sep 6, 2013 #988 of 3265
    HeatherA

    HeatherA Old AVS Forum Member

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    Will I for sure have to do this? I've never read about this before your post. Sounds like it could be a hassle.
     
  9. Sep 6, 2013 #989 of 3265
    CoxInPHX

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    HeatherA

    HeatherA Old AVS Forum Member

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    BobCamp1

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    CoxInPHX

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    Patience pays off in the end :)
    Or pay for next day shipping, if you are a Prime Member same/next day shipping is only $3
     
  13. Sep 6, 2013 #993 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    Please keep the weaKnees discussion relevant to this thread and sub-forum. Since all you need is a blank drive for a Roamio upgrade, the markup is actually >$100, even if you buy an AV drive. There is an additional charge to have them do it for you plus you have pay for shipping your TiVo to them. Exactly what "tools and procedures" did weaKnees have to develop for this? Maybe when you pay them the additional $79 for them to do the upgrade and maintain your settings and recordings, but otherwise nothing.

    Whether or not you buy a blank drive elsewhere or get an "upgrade kit" from weaKnees, you still technically void the warranty on the TiVo when you crack the case to replace the existing drive.
     
  14. Sep 6, 2013 #994 of 3265
    quikah

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    Weaknees is charging a ~$100 premium (compared to buying the drive from amazon) on the upgrade kit plus $49 for the installation service. If it is worth it to you go for it. $150 sort of makes sense with installation, but the DIY kit is just a rip off IMO.

    The upgrade kit for any other TiVo makes sense as they are not plug and play.
     
  15. Sep 6, 2013 #995 of 3265
    HeatherA

    HeatherA Old AVS Forum Member

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    In the old days we just used any hard drive we had around for TiVo upgrades. Why is this so different?

    I think my hubby bought the green drive on his lunch hour. Guess ill have to see how it goes.

    Btw $9 for overnight/Saturday shipping. It's gone up quite a bit.
     
  16. Sep 6, 2013 #996 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    I could be wrong, but I don't think we know for sure whether or not you need to disable Intellipark for a drive being installed in a Roamio. More than likely yes, but I don't believe it has actually been verified.

    As to the hassle - yes, it is a bit, especially considering you can't use a USB dock for this and there is conflicting information as to whether or not it will work via eSata.

    One other thing - do we know for sure that none of the Roamios use the streaming commands if it detects a drive that supports them?
     
  17. Sep 6, 2013 #997 of 3265
    swerver

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    OK I wasn't looking at the upgrade kit, I was comparing the new roamio plus + new hdd price to the new roamio plus already upgraded by weaknees price. Which would be 400 + 120 vs 570 = $50 difference, or less if you pay more for the drive. I see now that the upgrade on the basic model is a bit more. I already stated I do my own upgrades, I just don't follow why people are bothered that others are not like them, don't want to open their tivo, and are happy to pay a few extra bucks (less than sales tax on a tivo + lifetime) to get it upgraded for them.
     
  18. Sep 6, 2013 #998 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    I think the weaKnees prices for a "Complete DVR" upgraded Roamio Plus is actually a decent deal. For not too much more in cost, you get a 180-day warranty rather than technically voiding the 90-day TiVo warranty of you go the DIY route.

    I suppose the price that weaKnees charges for a Roamio upgrade kit could be considered to be a "tax" on stupidity.
     
  19. Sep 6, 2013 #999 of 3265
    jmpage2

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    Stupidity is a rather strong word. Ignorance is more appropriate, in that it is well established that TiVos don't have an easy hard drive upgrade procedure, that this has only changed in the last couple of weeks, and that 99% of TiVo owners probably never visit this forum.
     
  20. Sep 6, 2013 #1000 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    I don't think stupidity is too strong a word to use in this case. Anyone willing to go the DIY route (it's still DIY using a "kit" from weaKnees) who doesn't perform their due diligence is stupid. There is a difference between ignorance and willful ignorance.
     

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