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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Sep 4, 2013 #921 of 3265
    jmpage2

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    You should read the Wiki on Torx to better understand the technology. Philips was designed for the driver to slip out of the fastener when too much torque was applied which is extremely typical when automation is in use. The Torx design increases coupling when torque is applied and is a better option with robotic or machine assembly systems. In layman's terms what this means is that you have a better coupling, by design, between driver and fasteners than is possible with a slotted screwdriver arrangement.
     
  2. Sep 4, 2013 #922 of 3265
    brettatk

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    Thanks for posting this. I wasn't even aware this was possible. Guess I need to visit TiVo.com more often. :)
     
  3. Sep 4, 2013 #923 of 3265
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I used a program called kmttg to copy my SPs instead of TiVo.com. I've used TiVo.com in the past and it has two problems that kmttg seems to be able to get past...

    1) It maintains the SP order correctly, where TiVo.com seems to copy them randomly.

    2) It was able to copy SPs for shows not currently in the guide. TiVo.com copies them but they show up as "corrupt" in the SP Manger until the show comes back into the guide.

    So I would highly recommend using kmttg over TiVo.com for copying SPs over.
     
  4. Sep 4, 2013 #924 of 3265
    aaronwt

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    Non of my SPs showed up as corrupt when I transferred 103 SPs online to my Roamio Pro. I had a bunch that were not in the guide and none of them showed anything unusual when I looked at them.

    My only issue was that I could not transfer all of them at one time. So I I transferred 20 to 25 at a time.
     
  5. Sep 4, 2013 #925 of 3265
    cr33p

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    Upgraded my pro to 3tb last nite, pretty darn easy I would say!
     
  6. Sep 4, 2013 #926 of 3265
    HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Thought a pro was already 3TB???
     
  7. Sep 4, 2013 #927 of 3265
    jmpage2

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    It is, I imagine it's a typo, he probably bought a Plus.
     
  8. Sep 4, 2013 #928 of 3265
    HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    That's what I figured too.

    I finally was able to get over to Oahu and get my pro at best buy. Can't wait to get back tonight and play!
     
  9. Sep 4, 2013 #929 of 3265
    tbielowicz

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    Are people setting up their new TiVo boxes before upgrading the hard drive.
    Service setup, cable card setup etc...

    Just curious before I get mine
     
  10. Sep 4, 2013 #930 of 3265
    consumedsoul

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    I definitely loaded the stock drive and tried a few recordings before diving into replacing the new drive (just to make sure nothing's wrong w/ the main unit). Also got the SquareTrade warranty instead of TiVo's so I can replace unit within 2 yrs (since I'd be voiding warranty opening up TiVo).
     
  11. Sep 4, 2013 #931 of 3265
    jmpage2

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    You can do it either way. CC Pairing and other setup information is not preserved if you set it up with the factory drive and then replace it. Running it first with the factory drive does confirm the box is healthy (ideally you would do this for about 30-90 days before doing the drive replacement).

    However..... most of us have seemingly been just cracking them open new and putting the bigger HD in.
     
  12. Sep 4, 2013 #932 of 3265
    elwaylite

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    As stated, either way. I set mine up and recorded some OTA with a DVR Expander before I found out easy the upgrade was.
     
  13. Sep 4, 2013 #933 of 3265
    vurbano

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    No. Put the new drive in as soon as you get it out of the box.
     
  14. Sep 4, 2013 #934 of 3265
    JohnnyO

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    I think some are doing the swap before initial boot, and others are testing the system as shipped from TiVo before swapping the drives.

    I decided to go ahead and swap the drive before and testing, because I didn't want to go through the Guided set-up twice, and with the current upgrade option, there is no facility to copy data from one drive to another. I figured if I had issues, I could then drop back to the initial drive and test. I'm three days in on the 2 GB drive replacement drive with no issues so far.

    John
     
  15. Sep 4, 2013 #935 of 3265
    astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    That's why it was so easy!:D
     
  16. Sep 4, 2013 #936 of 3265
    tbielowicz

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    All - thanks for the replies.

    One more question Cablecard related. Was it an easy swap from your Premier Tivo or was it a bit more complicated?

    Just preparing myself as my Roamio arrived today and my hard drive is coming tomorrow.
     
  17. Sep 4, 2013 #937 of 3265
    PaulNEPats

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    Popped in a 3TB WD Red drive today. I've noticed some slight hitching when changing the channels. Not sure if that's just the channel data still loading/caching.
     
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    jmpage2

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    Hats off to them for doing this. I'm definitely not the target demographic, especially since it will likely require a RAID-0 type arrangement with the 2nd drive on an eSATA port.
     
  20. Sep 4, 2013 #940 of 3265
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    While most probably don't care what I think...

    I'm not going to gripe about the thread's sudden shift to warranty concerns. I think it's past-due for discussion on "the other side" of upgrading the drive.

    It's a legitimate concern, and the thread's title doesn't include "Pictures of the same thing, over an over, and YouTube videos ONLY".

    I was growing tired of seeing so many pictures, and clips, of what has already been confirmed. How many of the same do we need?

    Yes, replicating the results are important. I think we've seen plenty of AV drive upgrades, and a small sampling of a few who chose to try a non-AV drive.

    This is the first TiVo upgrade thread, for a new product, where the masses went straight to AV drives. I suspect the sudden negligible extra cost accounts for that. It used to nearly double the cost to get the AV drives, so things used to go the opposite way (people got the much-cheaper, at the time, non-AV drives).

    I've had my fill of up-to-3TB AV drive data. I'm still very interested in how the non-AV drives work, and if they will continue to work as well as the AV drives, given some time. I suspect that they will, but only time will tell.

    When I see people arguing with a forum moderator over warranty matters, I take it as a sign that it's a topic that I best keep anything I know, or think I do, to myself... So, that's my 2 cents. Happy upgrading everybody, and good luck (which you may also need if you find yourself with an upgraded Roamio, and it should fail, be discovered defective, and/or you need technical support from TiVo).
     

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