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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 27, 2013 #621 of 3265
    Kobe_No_Means_No

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    Oh, by the way, the drive inside my Roamio was a WD AV. I think so far the other folks who opened up their Roamios reported having Seagate Pipelines, so Tivo's using a mix of drives in these machines.

    So I put my original 1TB drive back in and the Roamio functions as normal, so anyone who wants to test out drives don't have to be nervous... you will not mess up anything.
     
  2. Aug 27, 2013 #622 of 3265
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    I have witnessed them shrink-wrap returned products, and not apply a sticker, while observing that half their PC component inventory has returned-product stickers. So, one could assume very little is truly "new in box".

    Yet another Buyer Beware situation. I open and inspect before leaving the parking lot now.
     
  3. Aug 27, 2013 #623 of 3265
    aaronwt

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    I think it is just the base Roamio, with the 500GB drive that has the Seagate. The Plus and the Pro with the 1TB and 3TB drive seems to have the WD AV drives in them. Or did someone post something different for the Plus and Pro.

    Although no idea why they use the Seagate 500GB AV drive instead of the WD 500GB AV drive.
    The Seagtae drives do say they are good for 16 simultaneous HD streams while the WD drives say they are only good for 12.
    I guess it might just come down to whichever drive is cheaper for TiVo at the time.
     
  4. Aug 27, 2013 #624 of 3265
    moyekj

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    So I guess nobody has yet tried a new drive after setting up and using another for a while?
     
  5. Aug 27, 2013 #625 of 3265
    TC25D

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    Yes, they have. It worked fine.
     
  6. Aug 27, 2013 #626 of 3265
    moyekj

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    See the context of my question above. The question is what is preserved if anything after doing so in terms of Cable Card pairing, Season Passes, Wishlists, settings, etc.
     
  7. Aug 27, 2013 #627 of 3265
    TC25D

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    See post #621.
     
  8. Aug 27, 2013 #628 of 3265
    moyekj

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    No definitive answer to my question there. I do strongly suspect as jmpage2 posted that most likely with a never-before-used-in-Roamio drive inserted all data is lost and it would be like starting out with a brand new TiVo, but was wondering if anyone actually confirmed that for sure or not.
     
  9. Aug 27, 2013 #629 of 3265
    morac

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    The picture that Kobe posted says most settings are lost if the internal drive is formatted. That implies that most, but not all user data is on the external drive.
     
  10. Aug 27, 2013 #630 of 3265
    TC25D

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    I imagine all the data you mentioned, i.e., Cable Card pairing, Season Passes, Wishlists, settings, etc., is stored on the hard drive it would all be lost when a new drive is inserted. Only information stored on TiVo servers (is there any?), could be restored.
     
  11. Aug 27, 2013 #631 of 3265
    series5orpremier

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    One version of the spec sheets gives the Seagate max operating temperature as 10 C higher than the WD. Then again, maybe TiVo just got a better bulk price from Seagate.
     
  12. Aug 27, 2013 #632 of 3265
    richbrew

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    The real answer is that it hasn't been tested yet by anyone, so there is no definitive answer yet. I would like to know those answers too, but it seems that everyone is content to assume, so I've resigned to the fact that I'll likely have to figure it out myself whenever I get one. (I'm not in any hurry to get one at the moment.)

    The last time I checked, imagination and supposition are not definitive answers either.
     
  13. Aug 27, 2013 #633 of 3265
    TC25D

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    Then you should perform the test yourself instead of looking to others to spend their time and money to definitively answer your questions. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Aug 27, 2013 #634 of 3265
    richbrew

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    Thats EXACTLY what I said in the same post you quoted. I also gave an accurate answer (that it hasnt been tested) instead of using my imagination to guess. Nothing in my post said that I had any expectation of anyone else doing it for me. That must have been your imagination again.
     
  15. Aug 27, 2013 #635 of 3265
    TC25D

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    No, it's not my imagination.

    Poor baby.
     
  16. Aug 27, 2013 #636 of 3265
    richbrew

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    Yup, it says that everyone seems content to assume, implying that I don't expect anyone to test it, and that I'll just have to figure it out myself, which implies that I don't expect anyone to test it. I had previously hoped that someone might test it, but I had no expectations. It was not a complaint, or a request, just an obversation, and an attempt to relay that observation to someone else with the same questions. There's no need to get your panties in a wad just because I didn't think your imagination was a useful answer.

    Name calling? Really?
     
  17. Aug 27, 2013 #637 of 3265
    Kobe_No_Means_No

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    I'll be testing these out this evening and will let you guys know. I ordered a 3TB WD AV drive from Amazon with local delivery a few hours ago, so I will receive it today. My 1TB Roamio Plus is already set up. So after I put in the 3TB I can let you guys know if cable card needs re-pairing, etc.
     
  18. Aug 27, 2013 #638 of 3265
    gothaggis

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    I had to re-pair my cable card after I had set up my basic with the included drive....upgraded to a 2tb drive a few days later. It remembered the name of my unit, but didn't have any season pass data, wishlist data, or saved channel lineup
     
  19. Aug 27, 2013 #639 of 3265
    NYHeel

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    Actually it has been tested. The original poster indicated that on his second Roamio he let the stock drive boot up first and then he powered down and replaced the drive. The second drive process was identical to the startup process as with the stock drive as well as with his first Roamio that he booted up initially with the upgraded drive. In addition, gothaggis mentioned losing settings as well. So I believe it's fairly clear by now.

    At this point there probably is some value in developing a drive upgrade tool similar to jmfs for those that want to upgrade their existing box without losing recordings and settings. But I don't have anywhere near the level of expertise to do that so I will just upgrade my drive before even booting up.
     
  20. Aug 27, 2013 #640 of 3265
    keytohwy

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    My Roamio arrives today!

    I've got a 2TB drive I'll be putting into it. I've read the thread (in it's entirety...where is the "all pages" button these forums??) and didn't see, or missed, any words on whether the drive needs to be formatted a certain way before putting it in. The drive is currently formatted for Mac OS X.

    Thanks for any help or links.
     

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