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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 23, 2013 #381 of 3265
    swerver

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    I believe they can tell once you connect your upgraded tivo to the network. At a minimum they can tell how many recording hours your new hdd provides.
     
  2. Aug 23, 2013 #382 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    As noted above, they at least used to do that very thing.

    Besides, the Roamio has built-in wireless. Didn't you know about the built-in camera? The NSA insisted. :D
     
  3. Aug 23, 2013 #383 of 3265
    swerver

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    What's the deal with 4TB hdd prices anyway? I bought 2 seagate external 4 TB drives for $140 each several months ago. There was an instant rebate involved, but still I didn't think it would take this long for that price to be common. Seems like it's a long way away now. Wish I had bought a spare now! I would love to have a 4TB drive in my tivo.

    Thanks for the research early adopters! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the story unfold.
     
  4. Aug 23, 2013 #384 of 3265
    MeInDallas

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    Do you already have a drive you plan to use? If not then my suggestion is to just go ahead and get one of the AV drives and then you can just pop it in and not worry with it. There wont be that much difference in the price and an AV drive is designed for a DVR/Tivo.
     
  5. Aug 23, 2013 #385 of 3265
    ppartekim

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    Yeah, I know.. I really wanted a 4TB but the price was $199 no matter where I looked and I either had to pay for Tax, shipping or both...

    That is one of the main reasons I just went with the WD 3TB, got it for $138 w/Prime and the 6mos interest free... Since I only had 2TB already this is still 1TB more video storage...

    If the 3TB does not work.. no loss, I will just use it in my Drobo's (which currently only have 1.5 & 2TBs). Now, if I could only hook a Drobo up as the external drive.... hehe
     
  6. Aug 23, 2013 #386 of 3265
    TC25D

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    • Monday - WD30EURS arrives
    • Tuesday - Roamio Basic arrives
    • Thursday - Cable guy arrives to remove 2 HD DVRs, install Tuning Adapter and Cable Card.

    :D
     
  7. Aug 23, 2013 #387 of 3265
    tivogurl

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    Please tell us how the temperature and power supply issues work out.
     
  8. Aug 23, 2013 #388 of 3265
    ppartekim

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    :p I just missed the deadline for Mon/Tues (unless I wanted to pay and extra $8, nope)... So my delivery is like yours but off one day (drive on Tues, Roamio on Wed).
     
  9. Aug 23, 2013 #389 of 3265
    ppartekim

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    Remind me on Wed..

    But if doesn't work as expected, it won't be the TiVo's tempurature that will be rising... :rolleyes:
     
  10. Aug 23, 2013 #390 of 3265
    monkeydust

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    So, based on what has been documented here so far, a year down the road and I find I'm running low on space on my Plus, I should be able to buy a new larger drive, remove my old drive, plug both into my PC, drag and drop everything from my old HD to my new HD, plug the new one into my Tivo, go through setup, then be back to where I was with my same recorded shows and more space?
     
  11. Aug 23, 2013 #391 of 3265
    vurbano

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    Ditto but with a plus and no ota
     
  12. Aug 23, 2013 #392 of 3265
    bradenmcg

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    "GreenPower" is just WD's stupid word for a 5400RPM drive.

    If you want to get really technical, the WD Red "NAS-specific" drives are also "GreenPower" because they spin around 5400.

    Prior to the areal density on HDDs being as good as it is now, a 5400 RPM drive was generally a lot slower than a 7200RPM disk, so WD and other manufacturers stopped advertising that the drive was 5400RPM due to the stigma. Instead we got "Green" drives, and they would be vague about the RPMS "5900 RPM average, variable speed" BS like that.

    For a DVR that is recording fat stripes of linear data at around 8-15 Mbps, 5400RPM drives are plenty.

    The only real difference between the "GP" and the "AV-GP" models is the tuning of the firmware, the MTBF listed on the box, and the warranty length.
     
  13. Aug 23, 2013 #393 of 3265
    Philmatic

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    Everything that is bolded is not true. Just read what I quoted and literally skip the bolded parts to see what is true.

    No drag and drop or saving your shows is possible (Yet). We are only talking about removing the existing drive, plugging in a new drive and having it automatically work. You would have to complete guided setup as if you just bought the TiVo and you would lose all your existing recordings.
     
  14. Aug 23, 2013 #394 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    I haven't seen anything posted here that indicates that is a possibility. It wouldn't work like that for a computer, why would you expect it to work for a TiVo?
     
  15. Aug 23, 2013 #395 of 3265
    bradenmcg

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    No, we don't know if that's possible yet with the new units.

    The discussion thus far has been centered around the ability to remove the drive in the unit, and insert a new one, and have it work automatically - this never happened in the past with Tivos.

    Since some amount of configuration / setting info is stored on the HDD, you presumably would have to walk through setup with the new drive, as though it was a brand new unit.

    The "drag and drop from the old to the new" part hasn't really been looked at yet, to my knowledge. It seems like the new Series5 units have a different format on the drive entirely, so that will be something that people will have to hack away at. :)
     
  16. Aug 23, 2013 #396 of 3265
    jmpage2

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    No, thats not it at all. You cant just copy on a desktop with drag and drop. What is being described here is putting a blank drive in the Roamio and having it format it and load software to it. You would have to use other tools to copy from one drive to another preserving recordings. Not the topic under discussion.
     
  17. Aug 23, 2013 #397 of 3265
    monkeydust

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    Yeah, I was doing some speculation. Actually if the setup info is stored on the hd, you shouldn't have to go through setup again if you copy the drive contents over.
     
  18. Aug 23, 2013 #398 of 3265
    innocentfreak

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    Someone with good organizational skills and good knowledge of the forum software needs to write a FAQ on this upgrade method similar to the old upgrade threads.

    Nope.

    All we know for certain right now is a brand new TiVo off the shelf never setup will take a new drive and properly configure it for use. A 2TB drive is the only drive that has been tested on a base Roamio.
     
  19. Aug 23, 2013 #399 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    It's possible that it might be as simple as using something like gparted, but until we see the actual layout of the drive(s) and/or someone tries it, we won't know.
     
  20. Aug 23, 2013 #400 of 3265
    Dan203

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    But if you just copied the old drive then there is no way for it to see the extra space and actually use it. Some sort of hacking has to be done for what you're describing to be possible. Could be as simple as flipping some bits to tell the TiVo there's more space available or it could be monumentally more difficult then that. We don't really know yet.
     

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