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Hard Drive Upgrade Info

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by amseven11, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 23, 2013 #301 of 3265
    lessd

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    Just checking that people are reading my posts, I will give you 4 stars and now change the date to the 28th of August, has been shipped from Weaknees $375 and no tax or S&H.
     
  2. Aug 23, 2013 #302 of 3265
    lessd

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    Weeknees did and found a problem, they are working on a solution so I will assume 4Tb will not be so easy an upgrade.
     
  3. Aug 23, 2013 #303 of 3265
    bradleys

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    I think what I will do is take the 1TB drive out of the Plus and reformat it for my Premier using the original drive that is still sitting on the shelf. I will then take the upgraded 2TB currently in the Premier / reformat it and put it into the Plus.

    I think that will be plenty of space!
     
  4. Aug 23, 2013 #304 of 3265
    NYHeel

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    Yeah, I'm the guy that posted that Weaknees told me there's a bug that they're trying to overcome.

    I'm not sure I buy everything they say though. If you look at the stuff they told Dave Zatz they claimed that they were going to be selling upgrade kits. But why would you be selling upgrade kits if all you need is a drive and the right screwdriver bit? So I'm not sure I'm believing what they say.
     
  5. Aug 23, 2013 #305 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    I wouldn't do that until someone verifies that this process works on Plus.
     
  6. Aug 23, 2013 #306 of 3265
    bradleys

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    I haven't placed my order yet, so I am sure it will be good and tested before I get around to it. But, my confidense level is pretty high at this point.

    What I like, is that I can get decent space on the two TiVo's with nothing extra out of pocket - very happy about that.
     
  7. Aug 23, 2013 #307 of 3265
    lpwcomp

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    I have to ask - why do you think you need the extra space if you're willing to sacrifice all of the recordings currently on the 2TB drive?
     
  8. Aug 23, 2013 #308 of 3265
    bradleys

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    I have a server - I can move any content to it that I might still want. I was always filling up the Premier before I did the upgrade, it really didn't bother me - but the kids and wife would go looking for something and ***** at me when it fell off the list.

    "Where is that cartoon I watched 6 months ago...."

    So, the upgrade really doesn't cause me any pain, the girls may just have to live with going to the server to find something. (or not finding it at all - if I don't feel it is worth the DASD)

    That said - I really do wish we had a better interface (updated UI) for browsing external content like a server.
     
  9. Aug 23, 2013 #309 of 3265
    BobCamp1

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    That's an extremely silly way to design something. So many things can go wrong, and flash is so cheap.

    I think the OS is in flash memory. The guide data and recordings are on the hard drive. Just like every other DVR on the planet.
     
  10. Aug 23, 2013 #310 of 3265
    bradleys

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    I bet you are correct - just another strategy for speeding up the performance.
     
  11. Aug 23, 2013 #311 of 3265
    richbrew

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    Personally, I am very interested in #2. Specifically, does it have to do a software update after installing a new drive (an indicator of whether or not the full OS is stored on the board) and does it retain critical information like settings, season passes, wishlists, channel selections, etc. It would make it much easier to decide to upgrade the drive after several months of ownership knowing that a drive upgrade woudnt force you to start over as if it were a brand new unit.
     
  12. Aug 23, 2013 #312 of 3265
    BobCamp1

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    I'm not worried about the thermals at all. I'm more worried about what that truly means. It means the power supplies may be working harder than designed. But if Tivo already offers a model that supports 3 TB, I'd be shocked if they didn't use the same power supply in all three models. So you should be fine in upgrading the hard drive.
     
  13. Aug 23, 2013 #313 of 3265
    BobCamp1

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    You forgot "keep recordings", which when combined with using all of the new, larger hard drive, may be the REAL reason to develop a tool. You can expand capacity but lose recordings, you can transfer recordings from a failing hard drive while keeping your existing capacity, but you can't do both at the same time.

    The DirecTV DVRs keep everything but the recordings and (most likely) guide data in flash memory. Tivo's DirecTV model, the THR22, already has the OS and all settings stored on the flash. You can upgrade it the same way -- just replace the hard drive with a blank one.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=481815

    The Roamios are apparently designed like that, except they've probably ditched the old APM partition scheme so they can support > 2 TiB (which the THR-22s can't).
     
  14. Aug 23, 2013 #314 of 3265
    richbrew

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    I didn't forget, it's just a non-issue for me. Its not hard to pull recordings to a PC, then push them back to a new drive, and I would find that preferable to unplugging my RAID drives to plug in the TiVo drives.

    However, I can add that it would be nice to know if it would work with a non AV drive.
     
  15. Aug 23, 2013 #315 of 3265
    richbrew

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    They didn't, the Basic uses a brick. The Pro and Plus are likely the same, and judging from the design of the outside, maybe the same as the Premier.
     
  16. Aug 23, 2013 #316 of 3265
    nooneuknow

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    From what I recall, they actually required the old boxes sent back. I can see your point in asking, but the cases I recall, required return of the old box.
     
  17. Aug 23, 2013 #317 of 3265
    lessd

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    Some years ago (before 2006) I had a Comcast DVR and the guide data was NOT on the hard drive then, it took many hours for the guide data to get loaded after a power interruption, when I got my first Series 3 TiVo it may have taken 9 min. to boot after any power interruption but all the guide data was on the TiVo system after that boot.
     
  18. Aug 23, 2013 #318 of 3265
    ppartekim

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    I would think on the Basic, one could just upgrade the AC brick to model with the same plug and DC output but a higher amperage to support the harder work needed for the bigger drive.
     
  19. Aug 23, 2013 #319 of 3265
    MeInDallas

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    Thats the way the TWC boxes are. After a power loss every channels shows not available and the guide data downloads like over a 24 hour period really slow. I always hated that.
     
  20. Aug 23, 2013 #320 of 3265
    ppartekim

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    Couldn't one just turn the fan around thereby making it flow out across the drive instead?
     

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