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"Halt and Catch Fire"... Anyone planning on watching?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, May 11, 2014.

  1. Aug 5, 2014 #321 of 383
    AeneaGames

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    She worked at a phone company, she had ideas how to make communications faster, improve on the existing modems, etc.

    I think she wants to make better modems optimised for online gaming which can connect to regular PCs.

    She was talking about (text) adventures stuff (among other things) so it would need a keyboard and a proper screen and especially since she was indeed saying they would mail the modems out to their customers the conclusion that she wants to make modems for online gaming seems slightly more correct...
     
  2. Aug 5, 2014 #322 of 383
    SeanC

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    I concur. I would love to see where this is going.
     
  3. Aug 5, 2014 #323 of 383
    Steveknj

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    The modem sounds were too long from what I remember about 2400 baud modems. Granted it's been a long time, but I do remember the sounds being much quicker the slower the modem was. I don't think I had 2400 until very late 80s or early 90s. My first two modems (both for my Atari 800XL) were 300 and then 1200. The 1200 had both the propitiatory Atari serial port and a standard serial port so I was able to use it on my first PC clone.

    Overall the series was disappointing to me, not because of the tech aspect, but because I felt that these disfunctional people could no way do ANYTHING successful. They were ALL too strongheaded in their thoughts and they couldn't get together on ONE thing of importance. The Lee Pace character was such a jerk that there's no way I'd let him lead a kindergarten recess let alone a potentially lucrative tech company. And his actions were really disparaging. The characters were so wishy washy in their loyalties that it just didn't seem real. One minute they are working as a team, and 5 minutes later they are all undercutting each other. It didn't make sense.

    I think you could have made a compelling story about the same topic without the dumb dramatics. There were some good episodes. I thought the Comdex episode was well done, then it got stupid again this week.
     
  4. Aug 5, 2014 #324 of 383
    midas

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    V22.bis (2400 bp/s) was ratified in 1984. But there were a few models on the market before the finalization of the spec. Telebit also had a proprietary modem out that was over 18000 bp/s in 1984.
     
  5. Aug 5, 2014 #325 of 383
    NorthAlabama

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    i noticed this, i remember the longer handshakes with 9600 baud error correcting modems in the early 90s.
    this sums up the series for me - so much potential, wasted on overly dramatic backstabbing...i can't remember such an unnecessarily antagonistic cast.
     
  6. Aug 5, 2014 #326 of 383
    dswallow

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    I had two Telebit modems. Felt like I had to get a mortgage to pay for them. It took me years after they were basically useless old tech to be able to throw them away just because of how much they cost. :)
     
  7. Aug 5, 2014 #327 of 383
    DevdogAZ

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    Agreed. As I was watching this final episode, I just kept thinking to myself that something has to go wrong, the Cardiff Giant can't actually be a success. That thinking is because of how the show was built and written. You never got a real sense that these people would succeed.
     
  8. Aug 5, 2014 #328 of 383
    Steveknj

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    And when they did come close to succeeding, one of them just blew it up, for no reason that makes any sense. This topic could be done so much better.
     
  9. Aug 5, 2014 #329 of 383
    zalusky

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    Personally I think Joe is Manic/Depressive. He was manic during the whole build up and when the goal was finally achieved it was empty to him. He goes into destruction mode and runs away. The final scene with him appears to be some new quest.

    Gordon almost in a similar fashion was frustrated with having to fight against Joe and the machine. Once he got it all at the end he looked quite empty.

    The girls seemed happy because they were in the startup and not the machine.
     
  10. Aug 6, 2014 #330 of 383
    Craigbob

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    A couple of thoughts on this show now that it's over for the season. Hopefully it comes back next year.

    I look upon this as a parallel universe. Having lived through the '80s and being peripherally involved in the PC world at that time and watching the evolution of the PC clones etc... I found it interesting.

    The Giant reminded me of a GRID laptop: https://www.google.com/search?q=grid+laptop&es_sm=122&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LmniU--1O9XsoAT14YCYCQ&ved=0CEgQsAQ&biw=1801&bih=943

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    I'm as confused as everyone as to why Joe burned up the shipment and nothing more was said about it. Unless it harkens back to the same theme that he doesn't create anything but destroys everything he touches, i.e. the IBM data center.

    Those old Hayes modems brought back memories.
     
  11. Aug 7, 2014 #331 of 383
    mattack

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    Did they show Hayes modems? I don't remember seeing ATDT commands either.. but I seem to remember that I didn't freeze on one of the computer screens..

    One other thing I forgot to mention was that they did a couple of time jumps in this episode that weren't really obvious at first. While I agree that sometimes a show can hit you over the head too much, this jumped months (?) a few times, and was only obvious minutes later after they discussed something that happened "in the past" (that we jumped over).
     
  12. Aug 7, 2014 #332 of 383
    midas

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    They did show a Hayes modem, I believe only once. I don't remember seeing any AT commands.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2014 #333 of 383
    DevdogAZ

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    Yes, this episode took place over the course of many months. The previous episode at Comdex took place in November 1983. Then this episode started in December 83 when we saw Gordon and Donna with a Christmas tree in their house. Then it jumped to January 23, 1984 when Joe had just taped the Super Bowl the night before and somebody made the comment about needing six weeks to get the shipment of prototypes. Then we saw them receive the shipment of prototypes so that was apparently six weeks later and then we saw them with the full shipment ready to go to the customer, so that was probably several weeks or even a couple months after the prototypes were received. And then the final scenes with Gordon running the company without Joe appeared to be several months after the truck was torched. So overall, this episode may have taken place over anywhere from 5 to 10 months.
     
  14. Aug 8, 2014 #334 of 383
    Steveknj

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    Speaking of taping the Super Bowl. Perhaps on not remembering the time correctly, but, he referred to taping the Super Bowl on his VHS. I thought by then VHS had pretty much won the war with betamax and we simply just referred to them as VCRs? I don't recall anyone calling it a "VHS". It was about the time I bought my first VHS VCR, maybe a few months later. I know I had it to record the 1984 Olympics (still have the tapes!).
     
  15. Aug 8, 2014 #335 of 383
    jsmeeker

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    So, what's next?


    If there is a season two, do we see Cameron created "Facebook"?
     
  16. Aug 9, 2014 #336 of 383
    Worf

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    Well, the video format wars were resolved by 1984, but there was still a huge installed base of Beta players and recorders so while the format was dying, it wasn't dead.

    So using VHS would be appropriate - plus I think that term was used instead of VCR until the 90s or so purely because Beta stuff was still being cleared out.
     
  17. Steveknj

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    My memory may be fading, but I don't recall anyone saying they recorded on VHS (and make a point about it, unless it was with their snooty, early adopter friend ;) ) I think by that time, we just say we recorded it and didn't make the point of it being VHS. I'm thinking here, the writers were just trying to make the point that they were using VHS as opposed to how it was. (Much like saying Dee Eee Cee for DEC, which nobody said in the day.

    By the time I bought my VHS
     
  18. dianebrat

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    Gordon is a tech person, it wouldn't have been out of line for him to have a VHS and Beta VCR, I can certainly see him saying " I recorded it on the VHS" to Donna, and I can see young scriptwriters who have never owned a VCR writing the line thinking they were doing a good thing.

    :)
     
  19. AeneaGames

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    But it was Joe who recorded it and said it to Gordon.

    At least that's how I remember it, my memory isn't what it used to be so I could be mistaken.
     
  20. MikeAndrews

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    You get kudos from me for the bps vd. BAUD fact. They all are 1200bps.

    I bought a USR Courier 2400 around 1985, and that led to me working at USR.

    2400 was pretty much a direct speed bump from 1200. 9600 was a stretch, and 56K, which never was 56K, was the mutiny from USR.

    Not to mention that the modem technology came from the research and development at U.S. Robotics, Telebit and Hayes, not from such as Southwestern Bell and, and BTW, phone company supervisors don't put their desk in the NOISY data center, much less directly in front of the NOISY Liebert air conditioner.

    One thrill I had was John Bosworth pretty much getting right the vector for a dial-up hack, "You could Control-C break out and be in a session in an account with all kinds of useful privileges and KERMIT..."

    The show was way too much of a writing loop: "Cameron wants to innovate. Joe and/or Gordon make her back off. Joe wants to innovate. Gordon makes him back off. They innovate. They back the innovations out. They pout."
     

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