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"Halt and Catch Fire"... Anyone planning on watching?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, May 11, 2014.

  1. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

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    Exactly. I don't understand why he's so insanely fixated on MM....
     
  2. jautor

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    Ok, but that's different than saying it didn't happen or is "too far fetched."

    Wikipedia has a really good article on the subject:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering

    And it talks about the distinction of the term applied to 'machine' vs. 'software'. Which fits this scenario. The level of care depends on what your end goal is, how much legal trouble you expect, and the scope of the effort. If you just wanted to figure out how the IBM BIOS worked, you'd read the Technical Reference Guide, and certainly just look at the disassembled code.

    And reading that article, I wouldn't have called "figuring out someone's code where no high-level documentation or specs exist" reverse engineering. I'd call that a typical software engineering day. :D

    But yes, it's a different process with software than it is with hardware. And writing specs doesn't look exciting on TV, which is why they made it look more like a hardware problem in the show... :)

    You may be thinking of a "captured enemy technology" type scenario - where you have absolutely zero information to start from, and very little to go on. And yeah, that's way harder.
     
  3. midas

    midas I heard that

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    I don't know. Seems like, with every post, that clean room is getting dirtier and dirtier :D
     
  4. Hunter Green

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    Word!
     
  5. jautor

    jautor Also wants a pony

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    Well, it's "clean" as far as the lawyers are concerned! If you want to question a lawyer's definition of "dirty", well, hey, not going get in the middle of that one! :eek:
     
  6. markymark_ctown

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    same here...not sure why I am committed to finishing it though :)
     
  7. Sixto

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  8. mattack

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    *ESPECIALLY* when you have only a limited # of bytes in which to put the strings.
     
  9. Jul 1, 2014 #209 of 383
    danielhart

    danielhart Nerp Nerp

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    This show should have two threads imo. One for tech nerds and one for normal people.
     
  10. Jul 1, 2014 #210 of 383
    Hunter Green

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    I think the "normal people" thread would end up pretty quiet and lonely... :)
     
  11. Jul 1, 2014 #211 of 383
    betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    I agree. I haven't seen anything that reminds me of Mad Men either.

    I am still watching it but am not sure how much longer. It's sort of at a point of I don't care whether I watch it or not. Though it is still on SP so I might if I have run out of other things.
     
  12. Jul 2, 2014 #212 of 383
    Church AV Guy

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    I certainly remember playing ADVENTURE. The "terms" fe fi fo fu, and Plugh were a blast form the past. I remember decrypting the data file to read the text.
     
  13. Jul 2, 2014 #213 of 383
    cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh.

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    Like Mad Men, almost none of the characters are likable.
     
  14. Jul 2, 2014 #214 of 383
    Bierboy

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    Disagree....I like Gordon and Donna. Cameron is a teddy bear, too...
     
  15. Jul 2, 2014 #215 of 383
    Steveknj

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    That's kind of where I am. The last episode was such a total bore that I wound up actually losing interest in it about 1/3 way through and started playing Candy Crush. Yet the topic itself is what keeps me watching. I just wish I actually gave a crap about any of these people. Maybe then I'd be more interested.
     
  16. Jul 2, 2014 #216 of 383
    Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    http://www.avclub.com/review/halt-and-catch-fire-tries-reverse-engineer-mad-men-205150

    http://www.bustle.com/articles/26286-amcs-halt-and-catch-fire-is-more-mad-men-than-breaking-bad

    https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-tv/halt-and-catch-fire-mad-men-003116173.html

    And that's on the first page of my Google search.
     
  17. Jul 2, 2014 #217 of 383
    Bierboy

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    You can find anything you want with the proper key words...doesn't prove anything.
     
  18. Jul 3, 2014 #218 of 383
    Gerryex

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    The best part of this episode was loading Colossal Cave onto their mainframe computer and then a whole bunch of people playing it at the same time.

    Around that time period a coworker handed me a computer mag tape. It was labeled: Colossal Cave - do not load onto your system or no real work will ever be done again.

    This version was written in Fortran and our "mainframes" were all Digital Equip Corp PDP-11s running RSX-11M. (Anyone remember these systems?) It had a Fortran compiler but some of the syntax was a little different, but after a few days (on my own time, OF COURSE!) I got it to run. And within a few days if you went into the terminal area during lunch EVERY SINGLE terminal had someone running Colossal Cave!!! It was just like what was shown in the TV show!

    No one could finish it until some enterprising person mapped out EVERY SINGLE location and item and finally finished the game.

    Gerry
     
  19. Jul 8, 2014 #219 of 383
    Worf

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    Well, no discussions about this week's episode yet?

    So... how is it Cameron is writing ANSI C code prior to ANSI C being approved (C89 - 1989, this show places itself in the early/mid 80s)? (Nevermind that C compilers supporting it don't necessarily come right when the standard's approved).

    Though, one of my friends actually had the K&R version of the K&R book. (I have the ANSI C version of the K&R)

    And Gordon... oh my.
     
  20. Jul 8, 2014 #220 of 383
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    This episode took place in August 1983 based on the fact that Hurricane Alicia was referenced on the news during the episode.

    I know Cabbage Patch Kids were a huge craze at Christmas 1983, but I think it was inaccurate to show them being sold out in stores in August 1983.

    With regard to Gordon being completely opposed to Cameron's idea for an OS "with a soul," why was he saying that it would take up tons of real estate and require a massive hardware redesign? Why would it matter what the OS code was? Shouldn't it have been able to run on the hardware they had already designed?
     

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