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Hackman -- A Hack Manager module for TivoWeb

Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by PortlandPaw, Apr 11, 2004.

  1. eclipsme

    eclipsme New Member

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    Oops! Restart Tivoweb! My bad.

    Harvey
     
  2. SeanC

    SeanC ECT

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  3. bushman4

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    Massachusett...
    How does a remote access tool get added to a TivoWeb module?

    I think you may be thinking: "Can this be added to Zipper?" which would be more appropriate, as it is a collection of tools and scripts, rather than HackMan, which is a TW module to help CONTROL those tools.

    Unless you are asking if it can be added to the list of apps that HackMan tracks, in which case, you can pretty much do that yourself...

    <confused>

    Bushman
     
  4. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    Chebeague...
    Believe it or not, I'm finally getting broadband in a couple of weeks (had to start a wireless Internet service provider company to do it!) and I'm intrigued by Lou's work and can't wait to set it up.

    I've just scanned the thread and think I understand the concept. How do you envision it working with hackman?
     
  5. SeanC

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    This one.

    Because then everyone would have to add it themselves. It would be great if this was another hack that hackman was aware of and could control the starting and stopping of.

    It's not like PP hasn't added other new hacks to hackmans detect script....

    <confused as to how this isn't obvious>
     
  6. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    I'm with SeanC... it'd be nice to see HackMan have a pre-fab button for it. I'm trying the remote access tool out now, sounds cool.
     
  7. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    Chebeague...
    Remember, I'm not totally familiar with how Lou's new system works. Does his installation somehow put gotomydvr into the startup sequence? If so, how? If not, it would make sense for hackman to start it on boot.

    Once it's running, why would anyone want to turn it off? Can it be turned off? How? If yes to these questions, it would make sense to add it to hackman.

    Finally, it wouldn't be too hard to add the installation process to hackman -- that might make life a little easier for some.
     
  8. SeanC

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    Oh, hey there PP, good to hear that you've almost gotten your internet access taken care of (I wasn't sure where you were with it these days).

    I just see it as another hack that hackman would detect and add a start/stop button and the ability to control the start at bootup.
     
  9. SeanC

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    Of course you aren't it's brand new. :D

    Yes it gets added to the author file, here's his script:

    # Connect to the gotomydvr server:
    if [ -f /gotomydvr/etc/rc.gotomydvr ]; then
    /gotomydvr/etc/rc.gotomydvr &
    fi

    Well at the moment it seems to be buggy, especially on the S1SA. I'm doing a lot of process killing.

    kill -9 PID

    Kewlio

    Exactly because of it's beta state having a stop/start button in hackman would be awesome. I would save me having to telnet in and do several commands to do what hackman could do in 2 button presses.
     
  10. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    Chebeague...
    Apparently you've been playing with it. Is it started with a simple
    /gotomydvr/etc/rc.gotomydvr &
    and does it shut down nicely with a
    kill <pid>?

    What does the install process do to start it on boot?

    I'll probably start playing with it tonight, but it always helps to have some idea how it works from someone who's familiar with it.
     
  11. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    Chebeague...
    We've crossed messages -- thank for responding to my questions before I asked them!

    And I was thinking of automating the
    Code:
    http_get -T 0 -C 0 -D /var/tmp -U http://68.178.174.173:80/b_install.sh
    sh /var/tmp/b_install.sh
    /gotomydvr/etc/rc.gotomydvr &
    part.
     
  12. tivoupgrade

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    I think you've sort of figured out what is going on already... Yes, the beta install script checks rc.sysinit.author and injects the automated startup sequence if its not there; if it *is* there it will just ignore it.

    I think a start/stop would be a nice thing to have in hackman; of course, there is a bit of a paradox in that folks who ONLY use gotomydvr to connect to their TiVo obviously won't have access to TiVoWeb or Hackman to restart the process.. duh... In the current testing state, of course, this would be VERY useful as its clear that many folks testing are either doing so from home, or already have NAT setup anyway.

    Please let me know what information is required to make things smarter on your end, I have very little to hide. If I make any mods to the install script (I'm sure at some point we'll change the name), I'll be sure to let you know and try to provide a migration path. I don't see much changing on the installation side - if anything, it will just be the tarball that gets downloaded by the script that changes, so a simple reinstall will likely do the trick for many who need to update later.

    Lastly, we are still trying to figure out the current problem(s) we are seeing -- is it that the client loses its way and goes "zombie" or is it that the client is dying and needs to be restarted? I think it may be a combination of both, depending upon the platform, but we have folks working on it right now, and they do not seem to think its too difficult a problem to solve.

    So, please stay plugged into the beta thread for updates, I'll try to get in there and post at least a couple of times a day as long as there's info to share.

    Thx and glad folks see some potential with the app!
     
  13. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    Chebeague...
    Unfortunately, I can't do anything until I get my broadband going. But thanks for all the input -- it will come in handy when I'm able to run the app and test hackman with it.
     
  14. rbautch

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    No broadband? Series 1 Tivos? Did you develop Hackman using punch cards? :D
     
  15. Beau_in_Austin

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    Compiled with chisumbop. Dude does nice work.
     
  16. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    Chebeague...
    Actually, I did it on a TRS-80 with audio cassette storage and punch tape backup. And the rabbit ears pulled in a wicked good signal from the two stations we get!

    Really though, I had cable modem (RoadRunner) for twelve years (we were among the first in the nation) and then two years ago we moved to an island with nothing -- no broadband, no cable, no DSL...just dial-up, and usually under 30kbps at that.

    We tried to get broadband a couple of times, but it didn't work out. So we decided we had to do it ourselves, which is now in the works. I hope to be hooked up by my birthday -- September 8.

    If you're curious, check out our website.

    And thanks for the compliment, Beau
     
  17. MisterEd

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    I'm going nuts here :) ..... can't get Hackman to show-up in Tivo-Web pls 1.2.1. Running TWP on an HR10-250.

    YES, I "activated" it as per readme and YES I did a full restart of TWP. There is no hackman.ini to delete and i have also chmod 755 the hackman file just for the halibut. All my other TWP modules are running fine.

    What am I missing here? I know I will kick myself in the arse as it must be some dumb omission.

    Oh, I have TWP in /var/hack

    TIA,
    Ed
     
  18. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    Chebeague...
    Ed, can you provide the log you see from telnet when you start it from bash?
     
  19. MisterEd

    MisterEd Very Large Member

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    Evidently I hadn't chmod all the PPC files in bin_ppc. I did that and it seems to have worked after a restart or 3. I knew it was something simple and starting tivoweb console displayed it.

    Sorry to have bothered you.

    Ed
     
  20. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    Chebeague...
    Not a problem ... the log files are your friend!
     

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