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Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by Gunnyman, Oct 16, 2005.
maybe peeps don't know what vilify means
Most alarm companies have a "cell phone-like" interface they can install to replace a land line. If they don't, it's easy (and likely free) to switch to one who does.
I don't get the whole vilfy thing.. I mean, you're giving credit and not even including their tools - making people go get them. What's the big deal if I use a script instead of doing it all by hand? That's the Unix way for crips sakes. Using scripts and lots of little tools to build up bigger/automated systems. It makes more sense than doing it by hand on what will be our three TiVos and ending up with inconsistancies or user errors.. Whatever...
Our old company (5 years ago so it may have changed) offered that as a backup incase someone cut our phone line. At the time, the monthly fee was almost 2/3 of what we'd save. I know when the phone company was dragging, ADT said they could work with VoIP and they'd install a UPS and some other things on site to make it more reliable but it seems like what they should do is just have it send reports via the Internet and have a UPS for your router/switch/CTM... Eh... I'll burn that bridge when I come to it...
It comes from the fact that the inventors of this crap had to sweat and work and fail ( a lot) to get these hacks to work.
Scripts are too easy and don't teach people who use them anything about what they did.
Many many people think if you don't learn how a hack works you shouldn't use it.
Frankly it's a dang set top box and once it's set up you shouldn't have to screw with it. At least that's how I feel about it.
Yeah, I bet it was a b!tch working out awk, sed, grep and so on for the first time but at some point, you have to stop tooting your own horn and accept they're just tools. Oh well.
Good observations, and definitely fixable. I have a few ideas. First, the rbautch-files archive is huge (relatively), so if I copy it instead of move it, it will take up way too much space. The uninstall script moves the rbautch-files archive to the root directory before deleting the /enhancements. This was done pre-Zipper for most people like me who ran tweak.sh from root. This made it possible to install/un-install tweak.sh over and over without moving any files. The simplist way to fix this is to have the Zipper put tweak.sh in root rather than /hacks/, and have people run it from there. I'll do some searching to see if there is a more elegant way to handle this, like having the uninstall script move the files archive to the directory where tweak.sh was run from...or from where it was run, whatever.
ps I hope I can count on some volunteers to test this!
I have my units up and running...If I can pull out an old 40GB harddrive from somewhere...Ill test it for you...
This was easier than I thought. The attached uninstall script will find the directory you ran it from (in this case /hacks/), and will move the rbautch-files.tgz archive there when the uninstall script is run. This way you should be able to cleanly install/uninstall/reinstall multiple times. If you want to test it, just replace the uninstall script in /hacks/ with this one, and run it. Then try running tweak.sh again.
So should I use this one and replace the one that I just yesterday used to replace the 2.3 one???
If that's the way you feel about it then how did you come up with the "unguide" if you didn't "screw with it"?
note I said once it's set up
it ain't se up til it's hacked
I ran into that the first time I ran the script....I should have posted it earlier ...I new what the problem was and just ftp'd it to /hacks where it was being looked for...Having my own linux server helps me get into just enough trouble to keep me up at night...LOL
Ok, so let's say you're pretty much a novice with no hacking experience but you know how to reformat a hard drive and swap them around. These instructions seem pretty straight forward (I like the links provided, thanks). How long will this take for the avg. noob and what would you say the overall success rate for people who didn't wander off from the directions?
Thanks a lot.
I would say that if you STICK TO THE INSTRUCTIONS...no deviations and you understand what and where Primary and Secondary IDE's are and how to ensure each is set to Master or Slave where appropriate..I would say your chances are 100%
You ALSO need to understand what parameters to insert for networking...
if you follow the directions and strayeth ye not away from them, once you have the tools disk made, the whole process from removeing the screws from the tivo to enjoying the fruits of your labor should be just over an hour.
Average time will depend on if you're moving to a new, bigger drive and if you're saving recordings. Also if you have a machine you can quickly pull apart to put the drive(s) in... These things took longer than the Zipper/tweak process for me.
Thanks for the fast responses. Yep, I'm only counting hack time and not actual hardware removal time. I don't have the time nor knowledge to read through some of the many posts required for previous hacks, that's why this one is so appealing. Plus, the fast response to people in need of help.
I understand how to change from master to slave and primary IDE so that's good. The parameters for network concerns me but I'm sure i just need to read up more. Do you mean the IP address?
just make sure your router is running DHCP and you have a Tivo approved wired USB ethernet adapter like the easily found Netgear FA120 and you will be fine.
cool. I at least did that much research for previous hacks and that is the adapter which I currently have.