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Good Bye TiVo

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Joey Bagadonuts, May 25, 2013.

  1. jcondon

    jcondon Well-Known Member

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    I agree everything you said above.
     
  2. Jun 1, 2013 #102 of 189
    slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    I have no idea what you're talking about here. Remove the dupe SD channels from the guide and you'll have no issues with wish lists because there are no dupes.
     
  3. Jun 1, 2013 #103 of 189
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    If I select a channel that is the channel I want to be viewing. I don't need a box overriding the decision I made.

    Sent from my HTC ReZound using Forum Runner
     
  4. Jun 1, 2013 #104 of 189
    Sevenfeet

    Sevenfeet Gentle Giant

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    The irony to all this cablecard business is that modern cableboxes from the Cablecos all have them. They aren't supposed to be user serviceable, but they are in there. So you'd think that the cablecos would be better about programming them these days, but every time I've needed to fool with the cablecards for a programming change, I've needed a truck pull since Comcast always gets it wrong.

    I'm in a position I was hoping to head off. I have two Series 3 HD Tivos circa 2007. Only recently have I been having hard drive problems, specifically with the one in my home theater. The external hard drive failed a month ago and I replaced it with another 1 TB WD drive that I happened to have around. But last night, the Tivo froze and won't get past the "Powering Up" screen which means the internal drive has probably had it.

    I've been at Tivo since July 1999...nearly 14 years now. I began with the Series 1, did Series 1 DirecTV for a while and finally jumped on the Series 3 in 2007. I skipped over the Series 2 and was looking to do the same with Series 4 but I'm debating about whether to just bite the bullet and get a XL4 or repair the current one and wait for the next series (assuming Tivo makes it that far). I also know that Comcast will be launching their "cloud based" DVR system in July in my market (Nashville) which I've been told will be great, but we've heard those promises before.
     
  5. Jun 1, 2013 #105 of 189
    HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Check the power supply capacitors. Both of my S3 OLED from Jan/Feb 2007 had bad capacitors in the last year. I replaced the capacitors in the one that totally died and just waiting for downtime to replace the bad ones in the other TiVo

    Scott
     
  6. Jun 1, 2013 #106 of 189
    CoxInPHX

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    This does not sound right, Cox is slowly transitioning to all new STB/DVRs that will support the Trio IPG and MPEG-4 (H.264) video. Cox is headed toward an all Cisco platform for thier STBs, DVRs and Cisco G8 Gateway, Cox is all Tru2Way compatible, so they will be using all Cisco equipment in the home and Motorola markets will be using Motorola CableCARD in the Cisco equipment.

    At least that is the current plan, Cox has a habit of starting and abandoning plans though.

    Cisco has already announced End-of-Life and End-of-Sale Notices for the PKM800 and PKM802 CableCARDS
    http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps8672/prod_eol_notices_list.html
     
  7. Jun 1, 2013 #107 of 189
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    It makes sense, if you factor in all the extra revenue they can generate by offering a better solution, that includes a contract, and THEIR newest equipment.

    They advertise on TV that the competitors all require contracts for their best services, and they don't. Then, they send out mailings that promote their better solutions, IF you sign up with a contract. THEN, you get THEIR newest equipment, and they have a chance to rid another household from using TiVo, since it's cost-prohibitive for the customer to rent cablecards (plus all the "Advanced TV" fees) for all the TiVos, and then stack another box (theirs) on top of each TiVo, along with all the extra costs and the contract, which has penalties for breaking it. The "Advanced TV Plus" package is only available for THEIR equipment, as well.

    While the renegade "Cos Las Vegas" franchise may be back in the main fold, this market doesn't offer Tuning Adapters, and if you want the services that require SDV, it's either their equipment with a contract, or live without it.

    Apparently, they still are doing things their own way, and feel they've found enough loopholes in the regs to get away with it. I doubt that they have many TiVo and other 3rd-party equipment users left (too may bailed before the FCC took action, which they still chose to mostly ignore, and just paid the meager fines), and are betting on eliminating them to the point of there being too few left to complain that any regulatory agency will take notice or action.

    They have kick-ass internet service, and speed, above and beyond many other Cox markets, which their is no true "competing" provider for. It's that very reason that it's hard to just leave Cox. There's nobody here that can provide anything better than DSL, which is through the phone company, which nobody here is happy with either (CenturyLink).
     
  8. Jun 1, 2013 #108 of 189
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    I suppose I should following the link and burn-out my retinas looking for the answer to this question, but maybe you can save me the eye-strain...

    What's next then, once the PKM800/802 cards are discontinued? Are we stuck with eternally "refurbished" discontinued cards, or is there something better, or newer, that will fit in a cablecard slot, in the future?

    I've heard of people *allegedly* buying their own cablecards, but I'm very certain Cox, in my market, would NEVER authorize them.

    Can I demand something other than a PKM800/802 from Cox on any legal grounds, or ruling? I don't like the ominously negative feeling I get for the future of current TiVo owners, in markets like mine. I also feel that 98% of my TiVo ownership woes are really due to Cox, not TiVo, and that at least 75% of that could be due to something about the Cisco/SA cablecards.

    I also agree with the part I didn't quote, regarding Cox announcing things, only to un-announce them, or come to agreements, only to never adhere to them. The one about Cox and TiVo partnering to provide on-demand services, which TiVo still has in their press-release archive, is a sore spot. I was on the short-list to test that here (by Cox), then was told TiVo backed-out, then was told by TiVo that Cox backed-out.

    There has never been any *official* press-release stating what happened with that, which I am aware of...
     
  9. Jun 1, 2013 #109 of 189
    atmuscarella

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    It appears Cisco's latest/current cable card is the PKM 908 which can support 8 tuners/streams: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps8672/products_data_sheets_list.html

    My guess is there is nothing wrong with the existing ones until they fail so I would bet they will be around for a long time.
     
  10. Jun 1, 2013 #110 of 189
    Bigg

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    It's the one and only thing MCE does better. It's intelligent about SD/HD and duplicate channels (I get PBS from Hartford and Boston that often have the same programming but sometimes its different).
     
  11. Jun 1, 2013 #111 of 189
    LowThudd

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    As a TWC customer for many years, all of the HD DVRs I have had from them were either very buggy, or failed in less than a year or two. Which is annoying when you have several favorite movies on the drive and they have no way to transfer them. I did have trouble getting my new TiVo Premiere up and running. The first tech listed it as a Cisco card, when it was in fact a Motorola. Finally I got a direct number for TWC that specifically deals with ONLY CableCard issues. She got me fixed up and working in under a half hour. Very proficient. 866 532 2598 is the number. Although the tivo has it's own set of issues, they are so far far less frustrating than the issues I get with a TWC HD DVR.
     
  12. Jun 2, 2013 #112 of 189
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    That TWC national cable card support number has been around for a long time. Just out of curiosity I searched the forum on "2598" and came up with hundreds of hits -- the oldest one was August 2008 ! Unfortunately there is no easy way for someone that needs it to know about it, so people keep "discovering" it over and over. Of course TWC support reps should know about that number but in my experience they generally don't, or at least they don't bother to use it or mention it to TiVo customers.
     
  13. Jun 2, 2013 #113 of 189
    slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    It's really not a big deal to setup separate SPs for both PBS stations. I have the same thing here in the ATL and have dupe SPs for a variety of shows on both stations, but they're both HD. I have all the SD dupe stations removed from the guide so I could actually just make ARWLs instead of separate SPs if I wanted.

    You can do the same, so even though WMC has the 'HD preferred' option for its series there is no point to it in my setup because there are no SD dupes. Everything I record is in HD. And if you really wanted some offbeat shows on an SD PBS sub-station (we have a couple here), just create SPs for those separately.

    I know what you're saying but it's such a minor difference and is easily worked around.
     
  14. Jun 2, 2013 #114 of 189
    Bigg

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    Yes, you can work around it. However, TiVo is a premium product, and you shouldn't have to work around things.
     
  15. Jun 2, 2013 #115 of 189
    Sevenfeet

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    That's a good point...I'd read something about capacitors failing. I'll have to check that when I come back from my business trip this week. Thanks.
     
  16. Jun 3, 2013 #116 of 189
    slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    LOL dream on pal, no DVR is perfect no matter how 'premium' you think it is.
     
  17. Jun 3, 2013 #117 of 189
    Bigg

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    It's what TiVo and all the others should be striving for. We see it in smartphones, yet we don't see it on DVRs.
     
  18. Jun 3, 2013 #118 of 189
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    TiVos are not defective in design, you're just not holding them properly.

    Just kidding, couldn't help myself. :D
     
  19. Jun 3, 2013 #119 of 189
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    No Smartphone is anywhere close to perfect either.
     
  20. Jun 5, 2013 #120 of 189
    Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    Except that was an issue you could only reproduce in the lab when you took the case off. In the real world, the case would be on, so the issue would be impossible to re-create.
     

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