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Glee - ANyone still watching?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by 702, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. Oct 10, 2013 #21 of 137
    LoadStar

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    busyba is correct. JoCo licensed "Baby Got Back" under a mechanical compulsory license, which permits rearrangements of the song, so he was OK on that end. However, he got caught unaware when he didn't realize that under a compulsory license, any rights for the song, including any rearrangements made to the song, remain with the original rights holder. Legally, Glee was safe to use JoCo's arrangement. Morally, though, one might have hoped that Glee's musical producers to at least contact JoCo to let him know that they intended to use it.

    There remains an *extremely* high likelihood that they used his original performance track, one he released on the internet as a karaoke version. There, Glee was definitely in the wrong, as they would have needed to obtain a synchronization license from JoCo, which they did not. However, he opted not to pursue that (rightfully judging 20th's lawyers to be bigger and badder than his lawyers).

    I believe there also was a reasonable legal argument that, given the original "song" was a rap song with no melody, technically all JoCo licensed under the compulsory license was the words. Therefore, JoCo's melody was a unique creation that he should have owned... but again, that would have required a much more protracted legal fight that he probably would have lost.
     
  2. Oct 10, 2013 #22 of 137
    TonyD79

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    My point was I don't give a crap. The Glee people did their due diligence. He didn't. So we should protest and stamp our feet because he thought he was wronged when he wasn't? What is this, Congress?

    Maybe he should also apologize to Richard Head who put the song to melody before he did.

    There is a reason for laws like these. Glee did their job. Just because some "artist" didn't understand the law and got in a snit doesn't make either side "morally right" or not. Let's see. He thought he had rights to the song. He was wrong. But he pouts better. Good for him.
     
  3. Oct 10, 2013 #23 of 137
    Langree

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    I don't have as much of an issue with Glee honoring Cory as I did with the Emmy awards. Regardless of how, they lost a friend. Now if the writer's really wanted to deal with "issues", they wouldn't candy coat the OD.
     
  4. Oct 10, 2013 #24 of 137
    jamesl

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    for someone who doesn't give a crap you've certainly put a lot of thought into this

    Glee is crap
    always has been
    always will be

    Glee is to music and talent what Twilight is to vampire movies
     
  5. Oct 10, 2013 #25 of 137
    Langree

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    speaking of crap.
     
  6. Oct 10, 2013 #26 of 137
    jsmeeker

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    They put a lot of thought into it.
     
  7. Oct 10, 2013 #27 of 137
    TonyD79

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    As any intelligent person, I researched the topic then figured out that I don't give a crap about the whining artiste.

    As for the rest of your post, classic thread crapping. Thanks for participating.
     
  8. Oct 10, 2013 #28 of 137
    MusicMama

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    Watched bits and pieces of last season based on recaps. If I liked what I heard in the recap, then I watched, otherwise just deleted the ep from my Tivo. Skipped the first two eps but watched this one live. Cried like a baby at some of the scenes between the characters, especially at the last scene with Mr. Shue.
     
  9. Oct 10, 2013 #29 of 137
    martinp13

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    God bless commercials, for breaking up the sad scenes with butter and automobiles, or I would have lost it. That was the most heartfelt episode I have ever seen of any show. Yes, he was a junkie, but he was their friend and co-worker, and that showed.
     
  10. Oct 10, 2013 #30 of 137
    busyba

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    If what you don't give a crap about is being factually correct, that much is obvious.

    If it's something else, then one has to wonder how you gave enough a crap to post your response in the first place.

    A) He absolutely was wronged, regardless of whether or not the actions stood up to legal scrutiny. There's a lot more to right and wrong than merely what's written in law books.

    2) Who's stamping their feet and protesting? I simply decided that I had no interest in being a patron of an artist who plagiarizes (even if in a legal manner) other artists' (JC was not the first indie artist to be treated in that way, just the one with the most fans and publicity "juice") work.


    Apparently he's got nothing on you.
     
  11. Oct 10, 2013 #31 of 137
    busyba

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    Back in January, in his blog post about the situation, his last statement was, "I will have a lot more to say about this situation soon, most likely Monday", and that was the last that he's said publicly on the subject, as far as I can tell.

    Based upon that, I have a suspicion that someone on the Glee side made some kind of settlement with him, and that included an NDA and a gag order.
     
  12. Oct 11, 2013 #32 of 137
    Anthjo

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    Really?

    Michael Jackson was a prescription junkie and (likely) a pedophile. Millions mourned.

    Elvis was a fat, slobbering mess at the time of his death. Millions mourned. Continues to be revered to this day.

    Whitney Houston was a crackhead.

    Princess Diana was an adulterer who chose to drive with a drunk and drugged driver. Entire nations mourned. Got a worldwide "send-off"

    John Lennon had a lot of demons that were well-documented, especially to those who followed the Beatles.

    Ronald Reagan was no friend to early AIDS sufferers when he refused to acknowledge that the disease even existed. Talk about a "send-off". News outlets covered it for weeks.

    The point is that a young man died way too soon. It's sad. The dangerous thing is that he appeared, at least on the surface, to seemingly have it all. A gig on a popular TV show, good looks, a beautiful and talented girlfriend....who knows what he dealt with growing up. He was a friend and co-worker to many of Glee's cast members. I thought the writers managed to honor him in a touching and poignant way without the whole thing feeling exploitative.
     
  13. Oct 11, 2013 #33 of 137
    dswallow

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    I still watch it. But I fast forward over anything with Becky or Rachel and anything with Kurt and Blaine together, about 80% of anything with Sue, maybe 65% of anything with Kurt, almost anything with Mercedes or Brittany or Quinn singing, and about 30% of most of the group singing. So it's generally a pretty quick watch.

    I'm caught up now to the Finn-dies episode, which I'll watch sometime over the weekend. And I fully expect to be completely disgusted by whatever story they've chose to surround it that I'll probably be deleting the season pass soon, though.

    The shows biggest mistake, and probably the major reason for its significant decline the last few years is to not have graduated the seniors and been done with them, but to just further spread the show too thinly and in ways that require too much stretching of storylines to keep the original characters in play.
     
  14. Oct 11, 2013 #34 of 137
    TriBruin

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    I still watch on a weekly basis. Last year I fell behind but eventually caught up. This year, I wanted to watch last night's episode. I have to admit there were times in the episode I felt a little dust in my eye.

    Since this isn't a spoiler or episode thread, I will spoiler my comments about this episode:
    I thought this was a very well done episode. I liked that they focused on original characters and their reaction to Finn's/Corey's death. Everyone's reaction felt "right". The songs were a good choice, especially Seasons of Love. This is one of my all time favorite Broadway Songs and I thought the kids did a great job with it.

    The scene with Kurt, Burt, and Carol was excellent. You have to wonder how much of their emotion was a reaction to Corey's death versus just acting. That was one of the best scenes in Glee in a long time.

    Loved Santana finally getting back at Sue. She was able to final get out all the aggression she had built up in High School. We got to see the "Good" Sue again later as she admitted her weakness. But, I doubt this will last.

    I am disappointed that neither Quinn nor Brittney were there. Since all the other originals were there (even Mike Chang, who didn't have a line in the whole episode), I have to believe this was a decision by the actresses. But, if I were in their place, I think I would make EVERY effort to take a week in my life to be part of the episode.

    Did we really need another "Tina is selfish" scene? Sorry, not needed.

    I agree 100% on this. I wish the Producers would have gone ahead with their original plan of spinning off Kurt & Rachel in New York. For the past 1 1/2 season the show has been off track trying to split show between two locations (and hap hazard attempts to tie the two groups together.)
     
  15. Oct 11, 2013 #35 of 137
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    At the time of filming, Heather Morris (Brittany) was 8 months pregnant, so she was unavailable for that reason.

    Dianna Agron (Quinn) was unavailable for an undefined scheduling conflict.
     
  16. Oct 11, 2013 #36 of 137
    Alfer

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    Difference being that all those folks were "legends" in their roles in society...this kid, not so much.
     
  17. Oct 11, 2013 #37 of 137
    Lori

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    Me, too. Finn was the character that sold me on the show, in the pilot. And without him, the show feels empty. So, I'm done.

    The farewell show was brutal. Glad I watched, but man.
     
  18. Oct 11, 2013 #38 of 137
    Lori

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    What would you have had them do? He was the star of the show. He was loved by the cast and crew. People do love addicts, you know. Also, his girlfriend is still on the show. So, what should they have done?

    Also, it's 'junkie'.
     
  19. Oct 11, 2013 #39 of 137
    Alfer

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    A simple note posted at the end of a regular episode saying that "he will be missed" or similar. That too would have been a good option.
     
  20. Oct 11, 2013 #40 of 137
    LoadStar

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    And the better word is "addict." As in, he made a bad choice and got "addicted" to narcotics, and unfortunately in the end that addiction killed him.
     

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