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Gizmodo Review

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by flaminiom, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Mar 24, 2010 #41 of 231
    LoadStar

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    Apparently there are "stability issues" with the two cores, so the software is only running on one of them right now. (As an analogy, think of a car running on only half of its cylinders.)
     
  2. Mar 24, 2010 #42 of 231
    dbtom

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    I just canceled my order for the XL. I am so disappointed. I have had Tivo since 2000 and was really looking forward to a new UI. The lag in the videos is not acceptable to me.
     
  3. Mar 24, 2010 #43 of 231
    samo

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    So it is slow and TiVo removed 30 sec skip hack. Does anybody know if hard drive hack will be working?
     
  4. Mar 24, 2010 #44 of 231
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    I really don't understand a lot of people. The review (Engadget) said that it is currently only running on one of the two cores. I would at least wait until I saw what the speed was like running on both cores before I canceled my preorder. What happens if, and I mean if, they activate that second core and the majority of the lag goes away? Will you be rushing out to buy one, only to find out every place is out of stock and have to wait another month?
     
  5. Mar 24, 2010 #45 of 231
    innocentfreak

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    Some people don't want to be the guinea pigs and I can fully understand that. If you aren't taking advantage of the upgrade offer and you don't need to upgrade right now, it makes some sense to hold off at least until we get some feedback from the tivocommunity users also.
     
  6. Mar 24, 2010 #46 of 231
    dbtom

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    The Premiere will probably ship in the next week or so. They are not going to activate the other core in that period. Maybe they will never activate it. Why take the chance? With these reviews I seriously doubt that every store will be out of stock.

    My perspective is probably different since I already have 2 TivoHDs and only two HDTVs. So one of the TivoHDs was going to go to an old tube TV. There is nothing new to the Premiere except the UI. If that is not fully baked I will just wait.
     
  7. Mar 25, 2010 #47 of 231
    paulnelson20

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    I fully understand the argument of people not wanting to be "guinea pigs." But, in all the years I have been buying products, the word "pre-order" always turned the light bulbs on in my head and I knew that there may be issues and that I ultimately was going to be a guinea pig. Why even preorder if at the first sign of problems you are going to cancel, or why pre-order when you barely know anything about the product (not the buyers fault in this case, but TiVo's for not putting this kind of important info out there). Why not wait until you have the info to make an informed decision and not buy and then pray that everything will be hunky-dory.
     
  8. Mar 25, 2010 #48 of 231
    nrc

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    Frankly the thing that surprises me is that TiVo would send it out in this state to reviewers and not realize that they would be pilloried for it.
     
  9. Mar 25, 2010 #49 of 231
    bkdtv

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    I am running a few minutes late, but here's something to hold you over...

    A shot of the current TiVo HD...

    [​IMG]


    Now the TiVo Premiere, same tests run from the same tuned channels...

    [​IMG]

    And here's a Youtube video showing side-by-side downloads from a TiVoHD and Premiere.
     
  10. Mar 25, 2010 #50 of 231
    paulnelson20

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    Holy hell, at least they got one thing right!
     
  11. Mar 25, 2010 #51 of 231
    innocentfreak

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    I think it might be in part due to TiVo having a pretty good track record of not releasing things until they are finished. I doubt most people thought TiVo would release a half finished UI.

    It is also probably due to the hype and the general excitement of TiVo finally releasing something new.

    I know I go back and forth. Some days I am really excited about the new Premiere. Then there are those days where my finger hovers over the cancel button and they aren't even costing me money to upgrade.
     
  12. Mar 25, 2010 #52 of 231
    innocentfreak

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    Your video is marked private.
     
  13. Mar 25, 2010 #53 of 231
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    The video is marked as private....
     
  14. Mar 25, 2010 #54 of 231
    SafariKC

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    This is exactly why I canceled. I'm a very bleading edge kinda guy. But this just smells of TiVo rushing. If they cared to prove it was awesome and the next best thing they wouldn't have done the big event -- and blame all the slowness on the slow Internet at the time, and then turn around and hand out review models to back up thier story that are just slow.

    Let's be real for a moment here, so far all TiVo has shown is that the took the old TiVo search beta and made it the home page in flash. Everything else behind it today it just the series3 experience.

    The future is probably bright, and once they prove it a little bit better than this I'll probably revisit.
     
  15. Mar 25, 2010 #55 of 231
    Kablemodem

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    I skimmed through the review quickly, so I missed that. Where did it say that?
     
  16. Mar 25, 2010 #56 of 231
    innocentfreak

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    They didn't remove the hack. It is still there and works. They just added a 30 second scan option.

    from the FAQ
     
  17. Mar 25, 2010 #57 of 231
    paulnelson20

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    In the Engadget review under "On demand, commercial skipping, and moving video around"

    It says, "instead, there's a 30-second "scan" that moves forward in about a second by default. It's not as quick as the skip, but it's effective, and we're sure it's keeping advertisers happy, so we'll accept it as a fine compromise between the functionality users want and the demands of content providers."
     
  18. Mar 25, 2010 #58 of 231
    jmpage2

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    What is there not to understand? This is the ONLY product that TiVo will be selling and they are launching it in a 1/2 baked state. Basically if you buy it today you are paying a price premium for a product that may or may not ever live up to its full potential.

    Things are only compounded by the huge fanfare and fuss that TiVo made of this product launch.

    Again, this is the only product that TiVo currently produces. Compare this to Apple's launch of the iPhone, which Apple put a lot of resources into but it was only one of an entire stable of products that they produce. The iPhone came out and floored everyone. When the product shipped it actually worked and the bug fixes were pretty minor. The entire user interface was "done".

    With the state of this TiVo Premier launch TiVo should be paying us since we are basically going to be beta testing this thing. They should be paying us to use this box so that they don't lose us as customer to cable company DVRs or Moxi.

    This would be funny if it wasn't so miserable.
     
  19. Mar 25, 2010 #59 of 231
    jmpage2

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    If we all cancel our pre-orders and don't buy this product in this state it will send a very stern message to TiVo (the message obviously being, get your *bleeping* **** together).

    If they can't sell the box they will be forced to reduce the price or risk going out of business. Their entire future as a company literally hinges on the success of this platform.
     
  20. Mar 25, 2010 #60 of 231
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