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Game of Thrones - "What Is Dead May Never Die" - 4/15/12 - S02E03

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by photoshopgrl, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. DavidTigerFan

    DavidTigerFan No, not Detroit. TCF Club

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    lol
     
  2. audioscience

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    Hah. When someone up thread mentioned you (Lord Kronos), it took me a minute to figure out who he was talking about.

    I was thinking,"who the hell is he calling Lord Kronos?!?"

    :D
     
  3. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Must be an actor on the show who's known for playing Lord Kronos in some other show I haven't seen...
     
  4. Snappa77

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    I loved this scene. Because of this discussion I went and watched that scene again. My problem... it led me to re-watch about 4 eps of season one again.

    My plan was today was to catch up on True Blood but G.o.T. got me sucked in. :D
     
  5. TonyD79

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    Because it was the dagger the guy found when he needed to steal one to use?

    Nah, way to simple for this show.
     
  6. Ereth

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    Good point. So the possibilities are:

    1 - Littlefinger DID own the blade
    2 - Littlefinger did NOT own the blade.

    Why would he claim ownership if he never owned it? The only thing he does with that claim is to throw suspicion on Tyrion.

    Which leads us back to... why would he want to throw suspicion on Tyrion? If he didn't have it at all, or he lied about how he lost it, either way he's throwing suspicion on Tyrion. And, at that point, Tyrion is almost a non-entity. A little man who spends his time with hookers and booze (he'd fit in here!) and reads a lot but has shown no interest in politics (this clearly changes).

    Perhaps he wanted to set the Starks against the Lannisters. Tywin, Jamie, Cersei, all too dangerous to call out. Tyrion, though... who would rise to his defense? His own sister and father despise him.

    There's always the possibility he's telling the truth, but when it comes to Petyr, I find that possibility unlikely, no matter what he's saying.
     
  7. JETarpon

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    Haven't you read the books, Ereth?
     
  8. audioscience

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    I was thinking the same thing.
     
  9. Ereth

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    Yes, but on this particular topic I've completely forgotten the payoff. I don't remember where it leads. There's a LOT of book, after all. I re-read the whole thing when the last book came out, but that was a while ago. I no longer have the recall I once had.

    But if you'd prefer, I'll stop participating. I don't mean to cause problems. I have been very careful to avoid conversations where I did know the answer from the books, but I admit I am not perfect and could have made a mistake without realizing it.
     
  10. audioscience

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    I've not noticed any issues. I just thought it odd that you were posing questions if you've read the books.

    I'll be honest, I don't remember exactly either but I think I have an idea.

    Carry on. :)
     
  11. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    The answer to the dagger mystery in the books kind of slipped by quietly, and wasn't terribly satisfying. If they decide to go a different route on the show, that could be a positive thing...
     
  12. JETarpon

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    Not a problem, I was just confused. I couldn't tell if you were just trying to feign ignorance, or if it was genuine.
     
  13. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

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    LOL...I know you didn't mean it that way, but I need to remember to use that when I want to insult someone.

    I'm evaluating everything you've said and I can't decide if you're stupid or just pretending to be :p :D
     
  14. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    I'm sure he just can't appreciate what a GENIUS you are! :D
     
  15. Ereth

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    A common mistake is to equate ignorance with stupidity. They are not the same. For instance, I'm ignorant of your real name. That doesn't make me stupid, it just means there is knowledge I do not have. There is a lot of knowledge I do not have. In fact, given how much there is to know in the world, I would suggest that the amount of things any one individual knows is dwarfed by the amount of things that individual does not know.

    His point is well taken. Did I really not know, or was I pretending not to know so I could lead the discussion down a path where "we" worked it out together?

    In this case, I'd legitimately forgotten. In fact, now that I've been reminded, I realize my thinking was leading me in the wrong direction. But, because I do now know, I can't comment on that direction any more.
     
  16. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

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    I was just taking a well-intentioned post and trying to make it funny...stupid just made it funnier, I thought...just kidding...I knew he wasn't insulting you and I wasn't trying to do that, either. :)
     
  17. Ereth

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    And your post was funny. That just turns out to be one of my hot buttons. I have people get upset all the time because they think I mean stupid when I simply mean "lack of knowledge".

    Well, ok, not "all the time", but when it does happen it turns into major drama.
     
  18. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    To be fair, however, while technically it can be used in a neutral way, "ignorant" is generally considered a pretty insulting word.
     
  19. JETarpon

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    But I know Ereth well enough that I knew I could make that statement and there would be no offense.
     
  20. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    But Ereth was confessing that he uses "ignorant" in a neutral manner and then goes into lecture mode when people take it the "wrong" way (which is in fact the way the word is almost always used).

    It's a kind of fake outrage that presses MY buttons.
     

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