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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by photoshopgrl, Apr 15, 2012.
Okay that makes sense.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the poor kid who was going to be in the nights watch before he took an arrow to the knee.
You mean Gendry?
If you're gonna be a rat, you'd better be quick about it.
Yeah none of them wanted to rat him out but they were essentially doing just that because until she said something, everyone was looking right at the real Gendry. This way it just appears as if they were all looking over in that direction at the dead "Gendry".
I'm still pissed about Yoren though.
I was referring to fake Gendry, who planned to rat Gendry out but got himself killed before he could manage it.
I think George R R Martin gives every character a moment, a moment where they make a decision upon which the rest of their lives hangs.
That moment right there, was Theon choosing his path, for good or for ill. He put his hand on the rudder and changed course, and now he has to wait and see how that new course plays out.
Is Baelon Greyjoy really the "5th king"? I thought it was whats his name, the Ex -Night's watchman who is the "King Beyond the Wall".
No, its the 5 kings who are all fighting each other. The King Beyond the Wall is in the lands North of The Wall and has not interacted with anyone except The Night Watch. Baloney Greyhound is preparing to attack Robbie Stark's lands, and calls himself The Iron Kong. He's one of the five.
That's the kind of confusion I hoped to clear up with my post.
Because he's a hard-headed big ape..?
I agree and with that knowledge I'm saddened. I can't imagine the betrayal Robb will feel over this. He doesn't deserve it. He's treated Theon as a brother. Theon's father, however, has never given two shits about his son and continues to give barely that. I just can't see why he would do it. Blood may be thicker than water but there's a point when you have to look at how blood has treated you compared to others.
It's the only decision he can make. He is a Greyjoy. He never forgot that (and the Starks never let him forget it). If he betrays his father and sister for Robb, who is he? what does he become? He can never be Lord or King. He would become nothing. Given his vanity and sense of entitlement (and even without that), he really had no choice.
Then they were both fools to believe Theon would be able to talk Balon into teaming up. Either way it seems that Robb's once brother/ally is about to be his enemy in yet another branch of his war.
Well, they both assumed Daddy Greyjoy would be a reasonable man. Cat knew better and tried to tell Robb as much.
btw, 2 nights in a row with GOT dreams/nightmares for me. All center on Arya and what is going happen to her now. The suspense is driving me insane!
oh, and I would say Theon is Robb's enemy for as long as Balon is alive.
Well, and maybe Yara as well. She has commanded the men and they would probably follow her (until Theon has proven himself). One thing Theon has going for him is how chauvinistic that world is (it's good to be a man!).
Well then I will hope for Balon to die shortly.
Let us not forget that Theon has always felt a bit of an outsider. Remember when he saved Bran by shooting the brigand with an arrow? What was Robb's response? "Thank you?". No, he immediately started yelling at Theon about how dangerous it was.
Much like Jon Snow, he was constantly reminded that he's not a Stark. It's interesting to compare the two and see how differently they handle that.
YES! Almost the entire first season, they were as mean to him as they were to Jon Snow. Then it became clear that they were just brothers teasing, hurting, each other as brothers will often do. Without the meanness and venom of the Lannisters, though. Those scars are deep and we can see how hurt Jon has always been. Now we are seeing that Theon has the same demons.
I don't question the love that Robb and Theon have for each other. But I saw no other choice possible for Theon and I leave the door open for him to make peace (unless he crosses a threshold later that cannot be uncrossed).
It's all so COMPLICATED!
Not a spoiler because I dunno a thing: Arya's direwolf is still out there. Look for Arya and Gendry to have a rescuer.
Can we see that the Starks can use their direwolves like the Targarians use their dragons?
I just remembered that Ned Stark sorta started it with the Lannisters when he issued the summon for Tywin Lannister from the throne.