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Game of thrones -Valar Morghulis-s2e10 6/3/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by zordude, Jun 3, 2012.

  1. Jun 4, 2012 #101 of 275
    pmyers

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    ahh ok. I was thinking they were in the stable. I remembered there being a bunch of hay and stuff.
     
  2. Jun 4, 2012 #102 of 275
    robojerk

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    I think some people are focusing way too much on 3 seconds of sword play on a tv show.
     
  3. Jun 4, 2012 #103 of 275
    stellie93

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    The guy at Penthos gave her the dragon eggs, so he might help or he might think he deserves to share the dragons.

    I realize all zombies are different, but can you kill these with guns? I don't think they have flame throwers in Westeros, do they?

    Also, the one good thing about a zombie is that it has no brain and wanders pretty aimlessly. These guys have leaders on horses organizing them. Not good. :(

    In Kings Landing this is a pretty wise assumption, IMO. The one person who has treated her well, although I don't think she's been around him much, is Tyrion. Of course, he's out of commission right now, and she probably just thinks he's ugly.

    Also, as someone mentioned, If Sansa had gone with the hound, and something had happened to him, no way she could survive in the countryside on her own. Her little sister, on the other hand, seems to be doing pretty well. ;)

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure Rob didn't order Bastard Bolton to burn his home to the ground, especially since he didn't know Bran and Rickon were "dead." But it must have been him, unless an ironborn or 2 stayed behind and torched it before they left.

    I wonder if Marjorie has any idea what she's getting into with Joffrey?
     
  4. Jun 4, 2012 #104 of 275
    madscientist

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    I don't think it is. I don't see any difference between "never trusting anyone" and "thinking everyone is testing you". It's the same thing, said slightly differently. Anyway, it's not worth arguing about a turn of phrase from the forum comments, that wasn't even in the show itself. It's clear from the substance of the comments that we're violently agreeing with each other.

    Robb didn't know that the boys appeared to have been killed because Theon killed all the ravens before word could spread. Robb assumed that they were alive and that Theon wouldn't hurt them, because he needed them for ransom. Most likely when Bolton's force got to Winterfell they heard about the killing and "knew" that the boys were dead already. The maester told them to go in case whomever sacked Winterfell came back: we don't know who that was. In any event it's certain that two boys, Osha, and Hodor aren't going to be able to survive long by themselves in a burned out town with everyone else dead and Winter coming. Sending them to the Wall under care of the Night's Watch is actually a great idea (except that the Wall is even more dangerous and the Watch is all up in the North... but the maester doesn't know that).

    I looked very closely and it looked like normal flames to me. I assumed that he was seeing a vision in his mind, not something really manifest in the flames.
     
  5. Jun 4, 2012 #105 of 275
    madscientist

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    These zombies seem a lot more in the vein of I Am Legend than Walking Dead. They are smart (or at least not mindless) and, if you recall the prologue to the series premier episode, they're fast, strong, and nimble as well.

    As you say... not good :(
     
  6. Jun 4, 2012 #106 of 275
    Anubys

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    Don't you just love TCF? ;)

    And, just so you know, the sword play lasted 2.2 seconds, not 3 :p
     
  7. Jun 4, 2012 #107 of 275
    jakerock

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    photoshopgrl

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    Okay in case I type a book, I'll put my thoughts first then go back and try to limit my quotes to just things I have to reply to that I didn't already have thoughts on before reading the thread. :)

    First and foremost, I KNEW they were going to give Tyrion the shaft. I can see this entire SL really pissing me off beyond believe!! Argh. That entire thing just makes me want to stomp my foot across Cercei, Joffrey and Tywin's throat repeatedly!! They cannot get theirs soon enough. Thank God for Shae! At least she's not turning on him in his moment of utter need. He fully expected her too so that was a nice scene between them. And as per usual, Dinklage owns every scene, every facial expression, every line he speaks. Gah, my love of him is endless at this point.

    Boy Varys was NOT happy that Baelish got rewarded (I don't like calling him Littlefinger for some reason).. and although my liking of Varys is increasing ten-thousand-fold with every scene he is in with Tyrion, and I know Baelish is not a nice man and cannot be trusted, I can't hate on him. Maybe it's the actor. He's too charming.

    As other stated, that entire scene with Joffrey acting like he couldn't go against his vow to Sansa was just them all going through the motions. She was the only one in that room (commoners not included) that didn't realize what was going on until it was done. I do think Baelish would help her, if only to get to Cat. In that, he's probably the most trustworthy person Sansa has now, other than Tyrion. Not that she knows she could trust Tyrion and not that it matters now that he's been exiled to where the F ever they have him. It's creepy seeing Joffrey flattering Margaery too. I really really REALLY hope I don't ever have to watch them get it on.

    Ros: I know who you are.
    Varys: Unlike your current employer, I protect those that work for me. I don't abuse them to satisfy royal whims or force them to abuse each other.
    Ros: How do you know about that?
    Varys: I thought you said you knew who I was.
    Heeee!
    I'm in agreement that his potential partner = spy

    I can already see Brienne ending up at Kings Landing to make a trade and Sansa is gone. And even if not, what exactly is the exit strategy once she gets there and delivers Jamie. Does anyone really think the Lannisters will allow her to leave with or without Sansa? These people are ruthless and have zero honor. I fear for Brienne at this point.

    Oh Robb Robb Robb. Cat saying Walter Frey is a bad man to cross will come back to haunt him. I don't think we, as viewers, have enough background on him to know what he'll do but they keep bringing it up so clearly he's not going to just roll over and accept that Robb is marrying someone else and breaking his word/their agreement. I guess my question is... does Frey have that many men that he might be a threat to Robb's army or to Robb himself? I was under the impression that he just had the bridge they needed for quicker passage and not that he's sitting on thousands of men to help him get justice when he learns this.
    On a side note, I did snicker and smile at Robb's comment, "My father is dead and the only parent I have left has no right to call anybody reckless".... ouch, truth hurts Cat.

    Stannis just got creepy. I kind of thought he was really going to strangle her for a minute! Oh now he's upset about killing Renly?? He would not have been upset if he had taken Kings Landing and was sitting on the iron throne right now! And clearly this woman showed him something in that fire.

    That was a nice speech from Theon. I'm going to be right pissed if his men killed him or took him back to Pyke. I need Robb to be able to face him! Even if he doesn't get to kill him, I want to see the shame in Theon's face as he has to look into Robb's eyes as the traitor he is. He's correct though, get home and he's a coward, go to the wall and Snow would kill him (as far as he knows he's there to do so) and fight and he dies. He certainly has been pretending to be a person he's not and it's too late to do anything else. Suck it, Theon!

    Dany's dragons are badass!! Bye bye creepy bald man. I loved that she got a moment with Drogo, real or not. I know he was a necessary death in the story of things but I wish he didn't have to be. I really liked him. Now I have to wonder if we'll ever get anything else from the Dothraki. She really needs to allow the dragons to grow more before she sets sail to Westeros. They can kill a man easily enough but an entire army? Not yet, I would assume. Okay Jorah turning the sword on Ducksauce was far hotter than I think it was intended to be. I had to replay that. :D Loved that someone here called the vault being empty. As soon as I saw the key go into the door, I thought the same because of that.

    WTF was that with Jaqen? I'm going to be sad if the actor playing him continues to change. I surprisingly really liked the actor. He was great at creeping me out without making me dislike him. Faceless man. Is this the first we've heard of this?? I really want to know how it is he was in the cage thing on the way to the wall.

    White Walker army! WTF! Did not see that coming. I thought they were creepers in the night. No wonder the Wildlings want past that wall! I don't blame them! And why didn't they kill Sam? I thought for sure he was a dead man. That pan out was really cool.

    AH! Not a year until more!!
     
  9. Jun 4, 2012 #109 of 275
    Ereth

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    Daenerys Stormborn does. But she's not in Westeros at the moment. :)
     
  10. Jun 4, 2012 #110 of 275
    Rob Helmerichs

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    And the look on Varys's face right before that, when Ros realized he was, er, lacking, was priceless. I'm not even sure what it conveyed, it was so layered.
    It was a great speech. And so subversive...earlier in the day, I saw Snow White in which poor Kristin Stewart is made to give a similar speech which rallies the nation to fight and die at her side, and all I could think was "Huh. Not that great a speech."

    Theon's speech WAS a great speech, and it was superbly given...but these cutthroats weren't likely to be convinced by ANY words. They were just looking for a way out. And then the punch line (paraphrased):

    THUNK!

    "Thank the gods. I thought he'd never shut up."

    "Hey, it was a great speech. I wanted to hear how it ended."

    :D

    What that scene brilliantly shows is the tragedy of Theon...he has the tools to be a great leader, but doesn't have a clue how to use them.
     
  11. Jun 4, 2012 #111 of 275
    Ereth

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    The Nights Watch collects prisoners to take the black and have their crimes forgiven. It keeps the kingdoms from having to give up men they actually want to have around. Ja'quen clearly was a prisoner in Kings Landing, though we do not know how he came to be such, or if he were wearing that particular face when he was first imprisoned.
     
  12. Jun 4, 2012 #112 of 275
    photoshopgrl

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    Yes, I knew that was why he was going to the wall. I guess you answered my real question that I didn't word well enough. I want to know how he came to be going to the wall if he's a faceless man. You'd think it would be hard to capture and try for a crime that way, no? :)
     
  13. Jun 4, 2012 #113 of 275
    Rob Helmerichs

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    A man wonders if he thought being in that particular caravan would be to his benefit somehow...
     
  14. Jun 4, 2012 #114 of 275
    photoshopgrl

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    Thank you for clarifying this. I thought I was right but then got confused when pendragon said they were the same.

    :up:

    Joffrey sitting like that just gives me one more reason to want to watch him die a slow agonizing death!
    I'm not sure how Tyrion comes back from this. His entire family have turned on him. I think if he weren't a Lannister, he'd be dead. I'm still not even sure why that fact matters to them at this point. :(

    While I don't disagree with Snow being an idiot... I don't recall him doing anything in this particular episode to warrant that remark. IMO, he did the only thing he could do!

    oooooooh! I hadn't thought of that. Maybe Robb is smarter than we give him credit for!

    Funny, on first viewing I thought she went for the groin as well. Once I read here others thought stomach I paid more attention on second viewing and yeah, I agree she hit him in the gut. Jamie's face was hilarious during that entire thing though!

    This!
     
  15. Jun 4, 2012 #115 of 275
    photoshopgrl

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    :up: ;) Say no more.
     
  16. Jun 4, 2012 #116 of 275
    stellie93

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    I loved when Theon asked the Maester to send ravens to his sister and father, and he said, "You killed all the ravens." :D
     
  17. Jun 4, 2012 #117 of 275
    tivoboyjr

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    This struck me when she began her journey with Jaime. It doesn't seem like this will end well for her. I assume Brienne is approaching this as the duty-bound soldier and just following orders.

    Is that the airport code for Winterfell?

    I know! I'm glad Breaking Bad is coming back soon.
     
  18. Jun 4, 2012 #118 of 275
    Rob Helmerichs

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    There's no more to say, really...it's just a thought that suddenly struck me.

    If so, he certainly was/is playing a long and dangerous game!
     
  19. Jun 4, 2012 #119 of 275
    photoshopgrl

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    HAHA! This made me laugh unexpectedly and loudly.
     
  20. Jun 4, 2012 #120 of 275
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Heh...we should come up with airport codes for all the GoT locations, and drive the people who think we're cliquish even more crazy. :D
     

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