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Game of Thrones - "The Ghost of Harrenhal" - s2e5 - 4/29/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Rickvz, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. Apr 30, 2012 #41 of 206
    LordKronos

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    Well, since were correcting everyone, I believe Bronn is actually the Commander of the City Watch.
     
  2. Apr 30, 2012 #42 of 206
    astrohip

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    I can no longer see that character without calling him Ducksauce.

    Thanks a lot.:D
     
  3. Apr 30, 2012 #43 of 206
    MikeAndrews

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    What's yer point? You want to raise taxes on the job creators? :rolleyes:

    I think we can take it as the Bank of Lanister foreclosed on Westeros.
     
  4. Apr 30, 2012 #44 of 206
    Lars_J

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    No need to spoilerize. The show is accurate the book regarding Renly's death. As for the follow-up question, so far the show is following the books.
     
  5. Apr 30, 2012 #45 of 206
    LordKronos

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    I was told that
    Renley was killed BEFORE Melissandre is brought to shore by Ser Davos.

    If that was correct, then I was wondering how Renley was actually killed. Also, if correct, then I may want to withdraw my 2nd question, as it may give away something still to come in the show
     
  6. Apr 30, 2012 #46 of 206
    MikeAndrews

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    I wish that people who have story knowlege based on reading the books would stop wishing that TV viewers stop making comments based on what they are able to learn from the TV series.

    If key plot elements are not made clear on the TV series, it's a failure on the part of the TV series scriptwriters, directors and producers
     
  7. Apr 30, 2012 #47 of 206
    pmyers

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    Sorry about that. I swear it sounds just like that!
     
  8. Apr 30, 2012 #48 of 206
    Lars_J

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    That's because there were two shadow assassins in the book. Renly is killed by the first, Davos observes the birth of the second (who goes on to kill someone else, a remaining Renly ally). The show wisely combined both events, as the other killed character was minor and cut from the show.

    But really, why does it matter? Just enjoy the show, don't worry about what is and is not in the books.
     
  9. Apr 30, 2012 #49 of 206
    Shaunnick

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    Edited to spoiler. Not really a spoiler but the folks around here :) ...

    She releases the shadow/smoke monster twice. Once to kill Renly (in the book this is before we know where it came from and the second time one day later to kill a lord who was under Renly but refused to cede to Stannis. It is this second encounter where Davos is entrusted to take her ashore to "release the beast." In the show they combined this as one death/release, because it is not important to the whole story that the Lord is killed afterward.
     
  10. Apr 30, 2012 #50 of 206
    LordKronos

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    It doesn't matter. I just find it interesting to know how books differ from TV/movies.
     
  11. Apr 30, 2012 #51 of 206
    pmyers

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    It just struck me as strange since Tyrion made a comment about "outspending him 3 to 1". I thought they still had money troubles.
     
  12. Apr 30, 2012 #52 of 206
    Legion

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    Not entirely.

    "steel of his gorget parted like cheesecloth beneath the shadow of a blade that was not there. he had time to make a small thick gasp before the blood came gushing out of his throat". - Clash of Kings Page 502

    That description make it sound like a downward hacking kind of strike at the neck and shoulder. Not the being run through by a sword attack we saw in the episode.

    Renley was still in armor if he had on a gorget.


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  13. Apr 30, 2012 #53 of 206
    photoshopgrl

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    I don't understand how those that have read the books aren't disappointed watching the show, knowing everything that's coming. If I had known that Renly was bout to bite it and how he would die, I think it would have taken all the awesome impact of it for me. Maybe it's just me.
     
  14. Apr 30, 2012 #54 of 206
    MikeAndrews

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    As King Robert said, "I'm half a kingdom in debt..." but Tyrion is talking Lannister money, right?

    BTW, how did the Lannisters make all of that money?
     
  15. Apr 30, 2012 #55 of 206
    MikeAndrews

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    Who is the woman in the gold mask/veil that warned Jorah in Qarth? Will we see her again?
     
  16. Apr 30, 2012 #56 of 206
    Legion

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    When I read the first 4 books, I didnt even know GOT was going to be on HBO, so the damage was done long ago.
     
  17. Apr 30, 2012 #57 of 206
    allan

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    That's why I didn't start the 2nd book until the series started, and I'm trying to keep my reading at or slightly behind the show.
     
  18. Apr 30, 2012 #58 of 206
    photoshopgrl

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    Oh I didn't mean to imply it was done on purpose for everyone. :)

    Yeah I think I'm going to save mine until after the series wraps up and then maybe read and watch again while doing so.
     
  19. Apr 30, 2012 #59 of 206
    lodica1967

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    For me, it was the show that caused me to read the 1st book. I was confused by all the characters and thought reading the book would help. My plan was to only read up to point we were at in the show.

    But once I got started I couldn't stop. I powered through all of the books and really wish I hadn't.

    You are right, it would be more fun to not know what is going to happen!
     
  20. Apr 30, 2012 #60 of 206
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Me too, which is why I'm glad I read the books first...having the show spoil the books would totally ruin it for me! :D
     

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