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Game of Thrones - Season Two and Book 2 Discussion

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Rickvz, May 3, 2012.

  1. May 7, 2012 #21 of 101
    Zarisa

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    I'm honestly shocked none of you are talking about the reeds. Yea I know they smushed them into Osha (which i greatly disliked). I guess finding 2 kids for the roles was hard?
     
  2. May 7, 2012 #22 of 101
    cherry ghost

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    They were discussed briefly in the books thread in Happy Hour. I'm hoping they'll be introduced next season.
     
  3. May 7, 2012 #23 of 101
    audioscience

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    I agree that that's what they're using the stealing of the dragons for, as a plot point. It doesn't seem necessary to me however.

    Another note, maybe it's just my imagination from when I read the book, but does anyone else think that the dragons should be much bigger now, not large, but maybe the size of a medium dog?

    I don't see how Drogon is going to burn down the House of the Undying when he's smaller than a cat and can barely muster any dragon breath!
     
  4. May 7, 2012 #24 of 101
    Shaunnick

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    If I recall, he attacks the heart thing in the middle of the house of the Undying, and that action is what brings the house down.
     
  5. May 7, 2012 #25 of 101
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    Also, annoyingly I think they are using the smaller size of the dragons as a way to keep down CGI production costs; once they are bigger they won't be able to hide them in cages all the time.
     
  6. May 7, 2012 #26 of 101
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    I'm pretty disappointed they have not cast them. I am however open to the possibility that they could meet the Reeds on the road, after they leave Winterfell.

    I'm not sure how else they'll split up with Rickon and leave him out of the story, unless they choose not too do that. But up to this point he's been a non-character. He's just sort of there.
     
  7. May 9, 2012 #27 of 101
    JETarpon

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    So, the riot in the streets. I take it that Lolys (sp?) and her mother are just written out of the show entirely? They were never very important, I suppose, but I remember that during the street riot she was raped by 50 men.

    Was that the high septon that was pulled apart (literally) by the mob?
     
  8. May 9, 2012 #28 of 101
    Rickvz

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    Yes, they appear to have been omitted from the adaptation. For a bit it looked like Sansa was going to take on the Lollys treatment but glad they had the Hound show up.

    I thought it was and that would follow the books.
     
  9. May 9, 2012 #29 of 101
    audioscience

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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the septon.
     
  10. May 9, 2012 #30 of 101
    Lars_J

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    I posted this in the S2 episode 6 thread, reposting here where it makes more sense:
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    You keep saying "you know"... But I'm not sure you truly understand what it involved in an adaptation. (Translation is not a proper term) Adaptations range from very faithful to details, to faithful to themes, and just loosely based. By ANY reasonable metric, GOT has been one of the most faithfully adapted multi-novel books.

    A different story??? This kind of exaggeration frankly enrages me. The change of minor character fates, and minor events in the scope of the larger story does NOT(!!!) make it a "different story".

    Most fans agree that the Dany story in book 2 is the weakest part of book 2. Besides the house of the undying, nothing of significance occurs in Qarth. As part of the adaptation they have opted to externalize her struggles into a more explicit character building journey. And there is no reason why the end-game of her Qarth journey won't be the same as the book - so it will likely have no long term impact. She'll recover her dragons and learn something from that experience. Also, the lack of threat of someone trying to take her dragons in the book at that point in the story could be argue to be a plot hole.
     
  11. May 10, 2012 #31 of 101
    billypritchard

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    I think we could drop Lolys and most of the other court-hanger-ons in general. Doesn't Bronn marry Lolys? Not that it matters really.
     
  12. May 10, 2012 #32 of 101
    heySkippy

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    I'm sad about some of the stuff that's been left out or changed, but not sad that we've missed seeing Arya pick leeches off Roose Bolton at Harrenhall. :)

    What is Littlefinger doing at Harrenhall, anyway? I'm trying to figure out what plot point that will drive and hope he's not there so he could recognize Arya for whatever reason. That would be a departure that I don't see the need for.
     
  13. May 10, 2012 #33 of 101
    Shaunnick

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    He was there to negotiate the marriage of Joffrey to Margery. Joff wins in that matchup.
     
  14. May 10, 2012 #34 of 101
    stellie93

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    If I'm remembering right, Littlefinger wasn't in book 2 that much. I thought maybe they just like the character and actor and are trying to get him more work. ;)

    I would love to see Arya and the leeches--also I'm anxious to see Bastard Bolton.

    It's too bad they can't give us 2 ten episode blocks per year and just do everything that's in the books. It's also too bad that GRR Martin writes so darn slow. I want book 6. :(
     
  15. May 10, 2012 #35 of 101
    audioscience

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    Yeah, they have really written Littlefinger up quite a bit and they've put him in different places at different times to compress time and make things a bit more interesting.

    I'm curious to see who is the next death for Arya because thus far they have changed who she kills. Amory Lorch is dead and he was killed as a consequence of the Weasel Soup scenario.

    I wonder if she will still free northmen to take over Harrenhal, which would give her the third death in Jaqen's killing of the guards.
     
  16. May 10, 2012 #36 of 101
    JETarpon

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    I think the "3rd death" has to be the same in order to set up the Weasel Soup scenario, and the changeover in control of Harrenhal.

    ETA: Not to mention Arya's future. I think Arya's 3rd name is necessary for her entire future story line.
     
  17. May 10, 2012 #37 of 101
    robojerk

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    If I remember correctly, Xaro Xhoan Daxos was setting up a scheme to steal Dany's dragon's. The tradition in Qarth was that after their marriage, the couple could ask anything from one another and they have to comply. Dany would ask for the money to buy ships and an army, Xaro was planning to ask for her dragons. I think if Dany had refused she would have been executed, and Xaro would have gotten the dragons and not lost any money.
     
  18. May 11, 2012 #38 of 101
    DavidTigerFan

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    Yeah, it's definitely going to be interesting to see how they go from book-film now. Is Dany going to go to the slave market and get the unsullied? Is Jon going to join the wildlings and (book 3 spoiler)
    kill halfhand?
    . I'm guessing that they'll end this season with Stannis' assault on King's Landing.
     
  19. May 11, 2012 #39 of 101
    audioscience

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    I think they definitely have to have Jon
    join the wildlings.
    And they are definitely going to end with
    the Battle of the Blackwater, final scene being Tyrion being knocked unconscious into the water...

    Also, I'm not trying to be the spoiler police, but according to the OP are we to spoilerize every event that hasn't happened yet, even if in book 2?

    I definitely appreciate the spoiler tags for future books as others do. I'm on book 5, so that's the only thing that effects me personally.
     
  20. May 11, 2012 #40 of 101
    Aniketos

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    Second spoiler, I think that's going to be episode 9, and I think George wrote that episode.
     

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