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Game of Thrones S03E04 "And Now His Watch is Ended" 2013-Apr-21

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by john4200, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. Apr 23, 2013 #81 of 216
    DevdogAZ

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    How do you figure? Joffrey's parents are Jaime and Cersei Lannister. The people believe his real father was Robert Baratheon. Regardless of whether his father is a Lannister or a Baratheon, neither of those would make Margaery Tyrell his aunt.
     
  2. Apr 23, 2013 #82 of 216
    MikeAndrews

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    Renley Baratheon's wife & queen was officially Jeffy's aunt.
     
  3. Apr 23, 2013 #83 of 216
    LordKronos

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    There probably didn't really seem to need to be any such policy in place. I got the impression that Dany raided a fairly large amount of gold from Qarth, but even all of that gold (including the ship she bought with it) was only enough to buy a few hundred men. So they were probably in the habit of selling a few hundred men at a time. Maybe 500 here and there. Then every once in a great while, maybe someone really wealthy comes along and buys a few thousand men. He's probably never entertained an offer for all of their men before, and it was just a joke to him. Then suddenly he gets a "real" offer for a dragon, gets overcome with greed, and makes a stupid decision.
     
  4. Apr 23, 2013 #84 of 216
    LordKronos

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    Did he say that and I'm not remembering it? Or were you mixing it up with the comment from the slave owner's advisor, when Dany asked to buy the men still in training and he advised the slave owner not to sell them because they were untested (I think that was the word) and it could make them look bad if they fail in battle?
     
  5. Apr 23, 2013 #85 of 216
    Anubys

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    He did say that. He told her that since they are untested, she should train them by raiding villages. He also asked her to bring him any young ones she captures, he would buy them from her, train them, and have more soldiers ready if she needs them later. Winning all around!
     
  6. Apr 23, 2013 #86 of 216
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Right, which makes two ways in which she is not biologically related to Joffrey. :D
     
  7. Apr 23, 2013 #87 of 216
    Anubys

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    :confused:

    netringer was clearly talking about Jeffy!
     
  8. Apr 23, 2013 #88 of 216
    Anubys

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    Has anyone seen new GoT Facebook spoofs? The first one (posted a couple of episodes ago) was really funny!
     
  9. Apr 23, 2013 #89 of 216
    heySkippy

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    I think the key word was "biologically."
     
  10. Apr 23, 2013 #90 of 216
    LordKronos

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    I'm not sure what your point is. I don't think anyone mentioned anything about biology, incest, or blood relatives. The comment was simply that he is marrying his aunt. And indeed, he is marrying his aunt.
     
  11. Apr 23, 2013 #91 of 216
    Rob Helmerichs

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    "I'm my own Grandpa...."
     
  12. Apr 23, 2013 #92 of 216
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    Non-book reader here:

    Do Dany and her army still needs to cross an ocean to get back to Westeros? Seems kind of stupid of them to leave a port city on foot.

    Anyone else get the feeling that the Tyrell's arranged marriages will not be happening? They will be too powerful if they were to occur.
     
  13. Apr 23, 2013 #93 of 216
    MikeAndrews

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    Who said "biologically?" Are you biologically related to any of your aunts?

    The point is that the kid is marrying a woman who is effectively of the same generation as his own father and mother.
     
  14. Apr 23, 2013 #94 of 216
    Anubys

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    The Dothkhari really hate ships. Even when her husband swore revenge and to get Dany her throne, he said he would cross the ocean to do it. Also, based on the map we've seen and conversations they have had, it was always about getting an army AND SHIPS.

    I assume Dany will now go back and reclaim her "kaleisi" throne first. Expand her army to include the Dothkari, then cross the ocean with a mix of Dothkhari, Dragons, and Unsullied. Which is going to lay waste to anything King's Landing can put together.
     
  15. Apr 23, 2013 #95 of 216
    Anubys

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    Well, I thought it was kind of amusing about the Aunt thing. But she is not of the same generation as his mother and father. I don't know how old the actress is, but I would think she is playing someone no older than 22; and probably younger.
     
  16. Apr 23, 2013 #96 of 216
    MikeAndrews

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    Yeah, but that guy is not "biologically" related either.

    His father marries his widow wife's daughter.

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw[/media]
     
  17. Apr 23, 2013 #97 of 216
    Jstkiddn

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    That's not even CLOSE to the weirdest thing going on in 'Ole Joff's family tree!!! :eek::eek::eek: :p ;)
     
  18. Apr 23, 2013 #98 of 216
    john4200

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    You ask the second question as if you are thinking no one could possibly answer yes (or I have misunderstood your point).

    But there are two types of aunts, by-marriage and by-blood. My father's brother's wife is my aunt by-marriage -- no blood relation. My mother's sister is my aunt by-blood -- we are genetically related.
     
  19. Apr 23, 2013 #99 of 216
    photoshopgrl

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    Haven't they already been on ships though? They were getting sick all over the place on the way to Astapor.
     
  20. Anubys

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    Ah, are you saying that Astapor is on the Westoros side already? I don't think so. From the opening credits, it seems to be somewhere between Quarth and King's Landing but clearly on the Quarth/Dothkhari side of the continent.

    I assume it was much faster to travel by sea than by foot. I think the scene illustrated why the Dothkhari hate ships and resisted going over and conquering Westoros.
     

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