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Game of Thrones - "Garden of Bones" - s02e04 - 4/22/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by photoshopgrl, Apr 22, 2012.

  1. tiassa

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    I read audioscience's spoiler, so I know I'm probably wrong, but my theory was that Tywin recognized her (or thought that this well educated Northern girl might be Arya) and wanted to get her out of the pool of prisoners without causing too much of a stir, because if the other prisoners found out she was Arya they might be inspired to free her, and return her to the Starks, she'd have to be worth some kind of a reward, maybe even a pardon for whatever it was that got them sent to the Wall in the first place.
    This was predicated on their current location being relatively close to the front lines (which I guess they aren't), and the fact that in Westeros holding the child of one's enemy as a quasi hostage seems to be a standard practice (Mad King and Jamie, Ned and Theon Greyjoy, Robert and Lancel Lannister, Sansa and Goeffery too--well, sort of)
     
  2. mwhip

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  3. audioscience

    audioscience Droppin' Science *

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    No offense Tiassa, you have the right thought about the whole "hostage" thing, but you've got some facts mixed up.

    Theon was a ward of Ned Stark after they defeated Balon Greyjoy, that is true. He effectively acted as a hostage although they didn't treat him like one. However, Jamie Lanister was not a ward for the Mad Kind, nor hostage of any sort it was quite the opposite. He was a member of the king's guard, sworn to protect King Aerys. Additionally, Tywin Lannister was formally Hand of the King for Aerys so there were some close connections there. The close connections led to the fall of Aerys when he let Tywin and his host into the castle. It wasn't a hostile situation until Jamie killed the king and the Lannistser men took over King's Landing and killed the remaining Targaryans.

    Much in the same way, Lancel Lannistser was no ward, but he was King Robert's squire. Their houses were married so it is common for someone of the connected houses to take up squireship with the other.

    It's interesting how easily these things get confusing just by watching the show alone and not having any background explanation.
     
  4. Fleegle

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    Actually, Theon was a literal hostage in the classical usage of the word. He was a noble child given to an opposing faction as insurance that a treaty would be upheld. Theon was given education and treated according to his station in the Greyjoy House, as evidenced by the act that he had a brotherly relationship with Ned Stark's children.
     
  5. john4200

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    Theon's nickname was "Actually"??? :confused:
     
  6. Fleegle

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    Post corrected.
     
  7. tiassa

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    I guess I keep trying to see literary counterpoint in the various characters stories, like the story of the Stark children and their wolves.
     
  8. Anubys

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    quick question: have we seen Bronn put on the gold cloak yet? I don't recall if I saw that.

    if not, I wonder if there's any meaning to it. come to think of it, have we ever seen him CLEAN?
     
  9. audioscience

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    No, I don't believe we've seen it. But I'm pretty sure he's the head of the City Watch now.
     
  10. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I thought the gold cloaks were the King's private bodyguards. Maybe 8 of them? And Bronn is the head of the City Watch, of which there are... lots more (1000?).

    For example, the guy Tyrion didn't threaten:D in this episode was a gold cloak.
     
  11. Aniketos

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    Gold cloaks, are the city watch, and literally called "The Gold Cloaks." The Kingsguard wear white cloaks, (you see the Hound putting his around Sansa.)
     
  12. stellie93

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    I thought that was the guy he did threaten--Joffrey was the one he didn't--see the difference? ;) (or maybe I'm remembering wrong)
     
  13. photoshopgrl

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista

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    I'm so annoyed at myself. I'm rewatching this past week's episode and right there in the "previously on..." they say "round up any survivors, we'll take them back to Harrenhal" and I apparently missed it the week before and then again watching this the first time around.
     
  14. audioscience

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    I caught that too, but didn't catch it the first time around I know where it is! :D

    There are a lot of little things that can be tough to catch the first time around.

    New episode tomorrow! :up: :eek:
     
  15. photoshopgrl

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista

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    Bah. My power is out. Looks like no show for me tonight. :(. Someone else will have to start the thread.
     
  16. Rickvz

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    Sorry you has to miss it. I started a thread so jump in as soon as you get to watch it. I doubt you will wait long. :)
     

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