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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by photoshopgrl, Apr 22, 2012.
I took Arya's list of people to be the list of people she will be getting revenge on.
They were talking of things we haven't heard before, but were talking of them rather familiarly so they were somewhat obscure. Stannis has a hard time doing things that aren't straightforward, and asking a man to be a smuggler, a man who had the last knuckles of his fingers cut off by Stannis for being a smuggler in the first place, was hard for him. So he kind of talked around it.
Last week, Yoren told Arya the story of how his brother was killed by a boy named Willem and that every night he would go to sleep saying his name.
Arya is memorizing and vowing her hit list. She'll go a tear once she gets Needle back.
Maybe "Stannis's son and heir" had to be born on Baratheon lands?
The urgency is so she can carry out "The night is dark and full of terrors" before the battle with Renley's army. I was looking for her to make some real world sabotage.
I might lose patience with this thing if there's too much more paranormal crap, but I dunno why I've been OK with witches and spells; zombies; intelligent, loyal Direwolves; White Walkers; and Dragons up to now.
Arya's list is already growing...at this rate, she's gonna have a busy life!
Smoky wouldn't be his "son and heir"; she's not his wife. At best it would be a bastard, but I doubt, given its nature, it would rank even that high. I think it would be treated kind of like Jon Snow is, only as if Jon Snow were an evil demon spawn.
It is kind of amusing when we try to apply logic to the point at which shows like this break our suspension of disbelief...
A couple of points:
I'm pretty sure that after each name on her list Arya was saying something like "give them pain", so yeah, it was a kind of prayer (sort of the opposite of "God bless Mommy and Daddy")
I also figured that the discussion between the Onion Knight and Stannis was to sneak Melisandre "behind the lines" of Renly's army to set some sort of trap or counter attack
LordKronos: "Call Maury!" :LOL
I'm glad we now know which "Stag banner" goes with which Baratheon
Tyrion -- Smartest man in the castle
Cersei -- my god lady, can't you keep it zipped!
If Harrenhall is 3 times the size of Winterfell and its prison cells are overflowing who the heck are the Lannisters holding there?
Just when you think that you know where the characters are going, they get spun in another direction. This is why I'm thinking that Qarth isn't going to be all sunshine and fluffy dragons for Danerys
I should have known someone here would notice
I was thinking about how smart Sansa is becoming and how Aryia would not have lasted a week had she not been able to get away.
Then why did Stannis make such a big deal about naming Renly Heir "until such time a son is born" *pan to evil red lady*
If Stannis makes red on red his queen, the vapor kid will retroactively no longer be a bastard?
Let's just hope no one who has seen Arya sees her as a servant to Tywin. What nice little gift that would be for him.
You gotta figure that Tywin is going to figure it out. He already pegged her as a girl and being from the North.
"Ilyn Payne", the man who beheaded her father.
I think he already knows who she is. I think he put it together as soon as he questioned "Why would you dress as a boy?" and she tried to cover by saying it was safer.
In our world, he would have to marry her before the kid was born. Otherwise, his trying to present him as a legitimate heir would start wars.
Well, more wars.
Not really a cover...she was telling the truth.
I don't think so. He's never seen her in his life; why would he know who she is?
Great episode. Some of the stuff that I expected to happen by episode 2 is finally happening.
My girlfriend hated it because of all the torture scenes. I expected it and that stuff doesn't bother me so much (although the rat torture seems pretty gross).
It's really quite interesting to see the non-readers reactions and thoughts on things here, and also the confusion about where people are. I think they should have some little cut scenes on the map so people can be like, "Ohhh, they are at Harrenhal, a new place to us."
I agree that the show is hard to follow for someone who doesn't know the story. My girlfriend watches with me and hasn't read the books and she starts asking questions right at the beginning of a scene. I have to tell her to hold off because sometimes a scene is such that I don't know what's happening or what exactly they are building up to. The opening scene with Robb's direwolf is a good example. That's just a great scene that's written in about a non-specific battle to explain that Grey Wind is on a tear. But my girlfriend's instinct is to say, "who's that? have we seen them before?" Which I can't really blame her. Also the Harrenhal scenes she was like, have they been there before?
Others have explained Harrenhal a bit but I'll add a bit more backstory non-spoilers and hopefully it will help. Basically it's a castle that was built much too large which makes it nay impossible to hold and defend. Thus, over the years Lords have trouble holding on to it and it tends to exchange hands a lot. Not to mention the disrepair it is obviously in. We've already seen it offered up to Janos Slynt, taken away as he was sent to the wall and then offered up again to Littlefinger. The Lannisters don't own it but occupy it, it's lands are technically under the Riverlands so it owe fealty to Riverrun by rights (home of the Tullys, Catelyn Starks' family).
But since Lannister men occupy it they'll give it to whoever it seems valuable to.
Oh, and to whoever said "if it's three times the size of Winterfell, why are the cells overflowing?" Just because it's large, doesn't mean it has enough proper "cells" nor does it have enough proper inhabitable space. Much of it is in disrepair, has been abandoned for years or was damaged by those pesky dragons. They say the tops of the towers have gone unused in years and are infested with bats.
Hope that helps.
I didn't even think of Lost, my only thoughts were those goofy scenes where someone pretending to be Santa Claus comes down the chimney and a big poof comes out the front of the fireplace.
Oh man, I'm glad my wife had all our kids BEFORE I saw this. I'd never go into the delivery room again.
And the stone was melted by the Targaryan dragons!
Isn't Queen Margarette(? Renly's beard) from the Tully family, same as Catlyn?
Margaery is a Tyrell. Loras Tyrell's sister.
are the dragons dead?