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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by SoBelle0, Apr 15, 2013.
No, I don't. Do you?
Certainly more capable than Apple TV.
The choice of HBO GO platform isn't going to fix the problem with DevilTV not wanting you to have any technology from this decade.
My impression is that it's not the same collection of individuals and that the people were captured in different geographic locations.
Whether or not the groups are under the control of the same faction, I don't think that's been revealed to us.
Yes, and hundreds of miles apart.
Dude is obvious just a racist who thinks that all scruffy white guys in ragged clothes raping people out in the woods look alike.
The show would have made quite clear if those stories were taking place in the same locale. We have zero reason to believe they are connected.
Or what King Robb said.
I noticed that too--weird they would get someone who looked like family to stand there if it wasn't someone we should know.
Roose Bolton is at Harrenhal now, but I don't know that anyone said he could keep it. Of course, getting him out of there might be more trouble than it's worth if Rob wins the war. Who held Harrenhal at the beginning of all this? Was it empty? Everybody seems to be promising it to someone.
Do we have any idea who the men who were going to rape Theon were?
Do you happen to know the name of the character he was cast to play?
Someone said that Tarth is called the sapphire isle because of the beautiful color of the water or something like that. Quick thinking on Jamie's part. Too bad he couldn't defend himself as well.
tee hee...now it's Rob and not Robb...Let's ban Rob to clear the confusion!
I think Cat figured she had lost the 2 boys and that made her even more desperate to save the 2 girls. Robb (2 Bs!) figures he won't lose hope for the boys until he knows for sure.
I can't watch HBOGO on my 46" flat screen either.
But I can watch it on my 60" flat screen!
Haven't you read the books?
I'm very unobservant--I've read all 5 books and all these threads, and I never noticed that it was Robb. Even the first time Rob joked about it here, I didn't get it. This time I did and then promptly forgot when I wrote my post.
We are fairly certain, but not 100%. They haven't said, but by connecting the dots:
1) Roose Bolton said he was going to send his son to Winterfell.
2) Robb said they could let the other Iron Islanders go, but not Theon
3) Theon was captured by some who put him on a giant X and tortured him.
4) Roose Bolton has an X on his chest plate, and there is a guy hanging upside down from that X
That's probably enough to figure it out, but to add to that,
5) At the end of the previous episode, Jamie identified the men who captured him and Brienne as "the flay men of house Bolton", and they were carrying a flag with an X on it
I think there is enough of a "Bolton = X = torture" connection to be fairly certain the Boltons had Theon.
Sucks to be me
I'm just going from memory here, but I don't believe Robb would have had a way to find out. When Theon attacked, Lewin was able to send out a raven saying. Someone may also have been able to send out a raven letting Robb know about Roderick's beheading. But shortly after that, Theon has all the ravens killed. This took place before orphans were killed. I'm assuming with Winterfell under seige, they didn't just let people wander off, so there would have been no way to get that info to Robb at that point.
Also, even if that news of the burned orphans did make it, who is to say that someone in the other town (where the orphans came from) didn't send word to Robb that Theon was there looking for the Stark boys and took the orphans instead, and Robb can figure it out from there.
All we know is that it's the same group who had him captive and was torturing him in the last episode. We don't yet know who they are or who they are loyal to.
IMDb just lists him as "Boy" so far. I'm guessing his identity is being kept secret because it will be a plot point when we find out who he is.
Of course they're different groups of men. Besides the fact that they were in completely different locations, they looked nothing alike (and one group was much larger in number than the other).
I didn't get the impression from what he wrote that he was aware that they were different groups of men but that he thought they were possibly under the same faction, but if so, then that is a definite possibility. Although it still doesn't make sense that an entire faction of men (and bannermen) would as a whole find both Theon and Brienne "attractive", which is what he was said. After all, even the fact that they were going to rape them doesn't mean they found them attractive - it's just that any woman alone and unarmed is going to get raped in this era. As for Theon, well, we know that whoever is holding him is into sadistic acts, and raping him would be yet another one.
The group that hunted down and tried to rape Theon were most likely either Bolton men or (less likely) Iron Islanders, since those were the only two factions that we know of that were anywhere near Winterfell at the end of S2. We don't know exactly what went down in Winterfell after Theon's men knocked him out at the end of S2, but we do know that Roose Bolton lied to Robb about what happened re the fall of Winterfell - but we also don't know whether Roose did so intentionally, or if he was misled by Ramsay about what actually happened. So at this point, we can surmise that Theon is likely being held by either Bolton men (with or without the knoweledge of Roose Bolton, who is off with Robb) or by some faction of Greyjoy men. Based on what's happened to Theon thus far, it would seem more probable than not that he's being held by another faction of Bolton men (different from the ones who captured Jaime/Brienne).
As for Jaime/Brienne, they were definitely captured by Bolton bannermen.
Today is Oona's Grampa's* birthday!
I believe that's the "Flayed Man" aka the sigil of Roose Bolton and his keep, The Dreadfort.
Because your question about Bran and Rickon happened in the books but not on the show.