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Future TIVO (Series 5?) - 2013

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by ghuido, May 21, 2012.

  1. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    I rent and also purchase Blu-ray Disc titles. But mainly rent now. Six years ago I mainly purchased them but it's much cheaper to just rent them.
  2. trip1eX

    trip1eX Active Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    A snappy interface, 6 tuners, and at least 2 tb storage and $100 extenders.

    I haven't cared about Moca because there are few Moca products at retail and they are expensive.
  3. agredon

    agredon New Member

    Jul 26, 2011
    I would expect the basic model to have 4 Tuners, with a 6 Tuner premium model available at a higher price. 2 Tuners just isn't enough anymore, especially if I have to pad shows, and particularly during primetime.

    As for storage, the basic model should be at least 2 TB, with the premium model at 4-6 TB. Why so much storage?

    1. You can record everything in HD. No more recording shows in SD to conserve space.

    2. You can go out of town for a week or two, unlike with my [45 Hour] Premiere which I can't leave for more than 24 - 48 hours before it gets full and starts deleting stuff.

    3. Each step up in capacity adds very little cost, while adding significant capacity. If you start with a 500 GB HDD, going to 1 TB will double the capacity for only $20 more, 2 TB will quadruple the capacity for only $50 more, and 3TB will give you 6 times the capacity for only $70 more. In fact, using anything smaller than 2-3 TB is simply wasting money [on a per GB basis]:

    500 GB: $0.16/GB
    1 TB: $0.10/GB
    2 TB: $0.06/GB
    3 TB: $0.05/GB
    DVD-R or BD-R: $0.04/GB

    I expect that the Series 5 will drop analog all together, but I'm hoping they won't do away with the ATSC (OTA) tuners also, like they did with the Premiere XL4.
  4. agredon

    agredon New Member

    Jul 26, 2011
    BTW, my estimated recording capacities for different channels:

    My Network TV HD = 143 Hours per TB
    CBS HD = 167 Hours per TB
    NBC HD = 167 Hours per TB
    TNT HD = 180 Hours per TB
    FOX HD = 200 Hours per TB
    ION HD = 225 Hours per TB
    ABC Family HD = 235 Hours per TB
    CW HD = 250 Hours per TB
    ABC HD = 265 Hours per TB (Primetime. For some reason Daytime shows such as Live! seem to be broadcast at a higher bitrate)
    Most SD Channels = 1,000 Hours per TB
    Disney Junior = 1,500 Hours per TB
    Logo, Teen Nick, Antenna TV... = 2,000 Hours per TB
  5. alex_h

    alex_h New Member

    Feb 10, 2004
    I'd like, but don't expect, the ability to add a BluRay Accessory like the hard drive, to add the ability to play BluRay, preferably with the easy to use Tivo interface. I wouldn't do it to save money, my BluRay player plays Network media and Netflix discs for stuff not available to stream... Integrating it with Tivo would be neat... would also bring me extremely close to not needing fancy receivers/switches, because everything would be in my Tivo.

    Maybe that would be a niche accessory, maybe not. Optical discs may be on the way out, but they aren't gone yet...

    I am guessing that the Stream/Transcoding device will NOT be a part of Series 5, I'd be shocked if they were to create a piece of hardware that will be obsolete so quickly (I'd expect in 6), but who knows, maybe it will live on since old Tivos live on long beyond their expected life.
  6. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    I know both Dave Zatz and I have mentioned we wish they would release a Blu-Ray player. It seems like a Blu-Ray player with the Mini built in would be a nice device.
  7. sdnative1

    sdnative1 New Member

    Mar 7, 2009
    I think the next Tivo (Series 5) should have built in wi-fi. You shouldn't have to pay $60 for a separate device.
  8. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    I don't think you will see built in WiFi. TiVo really wants you to be using a wired solution. The Stream is wired only and I believe they want you to use a wired solution to stream from a Premiere to another Premiere or to the up coming mini.
  9. scole250

    scole250 Member

    Nov 8, 2005
    Goldsboro, NC
    The Premiere 4's already support MoCA which many report is easy to setup and few issues. They also function as a MoCA to wired Ethernet bridge so if one Tivo can be plugged into Ethernet, it's all wired.
  10. NotNowChief

    NotNowChief Addicted to TiVo

    Mar 29, 2012
    New York...
    Allow me to take out my crystal ball.......

  11. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    A two year delay is pessimistic even for TiVo.

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