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Fringe 11/2/12 "An Origin Story"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Rob Helmerichs, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. Katrinaceleste

    Katrinaceleste New Member

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    OK John Prosky is the actor that played the captive observer. He has a couple of similar features to Joshua Jackson, so I thought with a bunch of makeup they can make Peter look like that. My bad....... anyway it is real freaky the direction that Peter is going in, but not surprising.
     
  2. matt@thehickmans

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    So if the Observer was a future version of Peter, he came back in time to taunt younger Peter into pulling his chip, implanting it in himself then going on to defeat the Observers. This is the classic "By His Bootstraps" paradox.

    It was kind of strange that there was a wormhole attraction box and that the other Observers did not seem worried about or come to recover it. And that he taunted Peter so.

    But I don't think it was Peter, it may have been Henry, sacrificing himself to give his father the means to destroy the occupation.

    Here's another thought: What if the anti-matter baton was as effective as Walter thought? What if the second shipment wasn't from the Observers of the future but was surreptitiously from the Resistance? And what if, instead of generating carbon for injection into the atmosphere, Walter had formulated a DNA targeted gas ("A Bishop Revival") that it put into the atmosphere? After all, they do have all the particulars of the shipment, thanks to Astrid's decryption.

    If that is what happened, there will be a lot of dead Observers once those machines are put on-line.
     
  3. Katrinaceleste

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    That would certainly be a very positive case scenario. I realize this is supposed to be the last season, but I hope they do not wrap things up too early. I would not be surprised if a few of the things you mentioned may come about.

    As far as the whole paradox thing it can get pretty complicated. Like what came first the chicken blah blah blah. I know it would not be that simple, that Peter just came back to talk himself into the implant. For one thing if he already had it why would he need to, and if he didn't have it where would the implant come from.

    Most likely the shipment that came through is what the Observers wanted, but let's hope there is a twist. As far as the baton, I am still trying to figure out the whole matter anti-matter thing, because it made sense at first, but the more people talk about it the more confused I get. :confused:

    I know if matter comes in contact with anti-matter there is obliteration, so I was just thinking that anti-matter was going to destroy the things in the wormhole, yet there is the whole idea of anti-matter already making up the wormhole.

    I also thought that a wormhole was just a black hole that had 2 connecting ends rather than one open end. But I like to look at things more simply, I suppose. :D
     
  4. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    I think what he actually said was "I would be ten times what you are if I had that tech in my head."

    I think the appearance of the posters does signify a timeline shift, but I don't think your screen caps are depicting what you think they're depicting. Your picture of the "before" alleyway is the wrong side of the alley. The picture without posters is looking back toward the street where the portal had just opened, and the picture with the posters is from Olivia's vantage point after she'd run up to that street and was looking back toward the van. I just watched it a few times and they were very careful never to show us that side of the alley from that direction.

    They were driving down the alley away from the street where the wormhole opened. Then Olivia ran back to that street, then turned around and saw the posters. So when they were driving down the alley originally, she should have seen the posters.
     
  5. gchance

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    I dunno if anyone saw this before the season started, but it still qualifies as a spoiler.

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    He also appeared that way at Comicon.


    Greg
     
  6. gchance

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    There was also this.

    Watch until the end.


    Greg
     
  7. latrobe7

    latrobe7 What, me worry?

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    I think Peter's goal isn't just revenge, he's going to try to go back in time to save Etta.

    I kind of like that this all started with Walter trying to save Peter and now Peter trying to save Etta will also cause unintended consequences.
     
  8. dianebrat

    dianebrat drastically off narrative TCF Club

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    dammit.. I should know better than to click on Fringe spoilers, only myself to blame, it's not a huge spoiler but it is certainly something I can't unsee now.

    No malice to other posters, it's my own greedy fault :)
     
  9. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    It's only a spoiler if it comes to fruition. :p

    I can see a scenario where Peter "becomes an observer" so he can infiltrate them in an attempt to thwart the invasion, but I don't think that's where they're heading.
    We'll just have to wait and see.
     
  10. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    Keep in mind the photo in question is a still shot from what is clearly a comedy/parody video. Doesn't mean it won't still happen, of course.
     
  11. dianebrat

    dianebrat drastically off narrative TCF Club

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    oh I know, but it planted a seed that didn't need to be growing :)
     

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