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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by robla64, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    John's...
    WTH are you talking about? A Premiere or Roamio has the exact same transfer capabilities in that area as a stock Series 3 plus they support MRS and h.264, which the Series 3s do not.
     
  2. Wil

    Wil Senile Member

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    I guess I forgot for an instant what forum I was on when I posted that. Sorry.
     
  3. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Even allowing for that, your statement was overly broad. If you had limited it to TWC and the like, it would have been OK, but at least here, Comcast only copy prohibits premium channels.

    That brings up one other possible advantage for the Premiere and Roamio - Comcast is supposedly rolling out VOD system wide.
     
  4. Wil

    Wil Senile Member

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    No. Wrong place, but accurate. With the new merger it will be a considerable understatement of the crippled functionality of newer Tivos.
     
  5. Phantom Gremlin

    Phantom Gremlin New Member

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    Yes I do have files that I can't copy off. Reason being that they were recorded under Frontier FiOS and their settings didn't allow that. Now I'm with Comcast and copying is much more liberal.

    I've run WinMFS, but that was almost 4 years ago.

    Is there a way I can transfer old files from my broken TiVoHD to a replacement Roamio?
     
  6. Phantom Gremlin

    Phantom Gremlin New Member

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    Are you saying that if/when Comcast acquires TWC, the successor company will be more like "pure evil" TWC than "semi evil" Comcast in terms of CCI bytes that allow copying? Can today's Roamio transfer files to a computer under Comcast (assuming CCI allows it)?

    I'm thinking (hoping?) that since Comcast is the acquirer, their policies will prevail. Of course, I wish this merger *wouldn't* go thru, but I'd be willing to bet even money that it does occur.
     
  7. Phantom Gremlin

    Phantom Gremlin New Member

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    Can you transfer a newly recorded program from the bad TiVo to anywhere else? Is your problem only with old programs?

    I got hit with this upgrade. But I just now checked and I am still able to transfer a program that was recorded less than 24 hours ago. But that's TiVo->TiVo, I haven't fired up kmttg to see if that still works.

    So far I haven't noticed anything wrong with my box. I wonder how insidious the slow corruption will be? BTW I don't have an expander, my two WD expanders broke, what a waste of money they were.
     
  8. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    I would not count on that. A merger often gives way to "best practices", whatever that means. Both companies are reviled, so my estimation is that would be a cost/financial measure on the CC1, and not customer experience...
     
  9. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    With the way Comcast currently works, there may not be any changes.
     
  10. blacknoi

    blacknoi Member

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    Has anyone tried calling who didn't get 11.3, and successfully got offered a free premier or a discounted roamio, by mentioning the email in the original post?

    I know Tivo would know your software versions, but wondering if anyone tried and had any success?
     
  11. BTDFXD

    BTDFXD New Member

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    Wow, what a statement about ethical behavior...let's see if I can take advantage of Tivo's trying to do the right thing for those affected even though I'm not. Great idea.........on the other hand, maybe not.
     
  12. blacknoi

    blacknoi Member

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    If you are upfront about it (and how could you not given they know your software revisions), and they willingly offer it to you, how would that be unethical?

    I was equating it to more of a call to the cable company or a call to the cell phone company, asking to reduce your bill. They have no obligation to do it, but if they do you luck out.

    Kinda the same scenario here. If you call, and they give it to you, that's their decision.

    With that being said, I'm glad to see Tivo being very customer-friendly as the situation is one they created.
     
  13. edso

    edso New Member

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    No. I cannot see the series 3 from any version of TivoDesktop or from my series 2 box. I can ping it and it can talk to Tivo corporate. I cannot login via the web either.
     
  14. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Since I don't know how this "upgrade" broke things or exactly what it broke, I have no idea if this will work or not.

    You'll need to get another hard drive at least as big and copy the TiVo's drive to it.

    I do not know, in this particular case, if it would be better to use

    mfscopy

    in WinMFS or do a lower level byte for byte "Xerox" with

    dd_rescue

    or

    ddrescue

    from a Live Linux cd to do the copying, but the idea is you make a copy and do all the experimenting on the copy and leave the original untouched.

    Once you have the copy, you put it in the TiVo to make sure it works, even though it'll have the same problems.

    Then you take it back out of the TiVo, hook it back to the PC, go into WinMFS, select that drive, and click on

    mfsinfo

    to find out if it's set to boot from partitions 2, 3, and 4, or from 5, 6, and 7.

    Then you use either option 1 or option 2 of bootfix or fixboot or whatever it's called (still in WinMFS) to make the other set the primary--this should switch you back to the 11.0m installation you had before.

    Option 1 sets it for 2, 3, and 4, regardless of where it was, and option 2 sets it for 5, 6, and 7, regardless of where it was.

    Then you can use

    mfsinfo

    again to make sure the change happened and that things still look okay.

    Then you put it in the TiVo to see if it boots up to 11.0m


    Another experiment is to make the copy and restore an 11.0m image to the copy, which will overwrite some if not all of the partitions that come before the MFS pairs, and then see if when you boot that in the TiVo and let it go through the fixing the TiVo Service Number mismatch (that'll be the Green Screen 3 hour thing) and then go through Guided Setup, see if the shows are still there, since theoretically the MFS partitions shouldn't be overwritten by the new image, except for the parts at the beginning that identify them as partitions, which should be the same as what gets overwritten.
     
  15. Phantom Gremlin

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    Very interesting. I didn't know I could do that.

    Of course, if TiVo pushes *another* update, then the original 11.0m will be lost! :)
     
  16. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    As I say, I have no idea if it will actually work or if the "update" hosed enough stuff not in those 3 partitions that it won't, but if it does, make a truncated backup immediately.
     
  17. bparker

    bparker New Member

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    Since I've been looking to buy used equipment, I'll need to keep an eye on the version number too.
     
  18. ncbill

    ncbill Member

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    Should I call even though I haven't rec'd the email?

    My Series 3 OLED w/ 500GB WD expander up at our place in the mountains was working fine in January, but I just discovered it has stopped working.

    Swapping power supplies with another Series 3 OLED didn't solve the problem.

    I only get the initial "welcome powering up" screen then a grey screen & all indicators on the front panel stay lit.
     
  19. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    I've only seen HD models reported as getting the 11.3 code by accident. If it's not power supply then I would expect hard drive (and especially with the external expander).

    Scott
     
  20. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    If you still had the original 250GB drive in there, it's probably dead or dying, but hook it to a PC and run WD's own long test to see if the drive itself is okay or not.

    Within the past few months I got good deals on 2 lifetimed 648s because their original hard drives had gone bad or were in the process of doing so, and seen reports here at TCF of other 648 owners seeing the same thing, so I suspect it's a trend.

    But as far as we know the mistaken push out of 11.3 was only the 652 version to some S3 HDs.
     

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