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Four tuners...why not...

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by Bighouse, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. Bighouse

    Bighouse 200 Club Member

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    Four HDMI outputs? Then I could use my tv's multiple HDMI inputs to use picture in picture or picture by picture on my tv to watch two shows at once!

    Anyone?
     
  2. farmermac

    farmermac Recorder of shows

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    I never got the point of pip and watching 2 shows at once. Can you really enjoy both shows?

    Maybe some sports but even then.
     
  3. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    If you are talking about the Premiere Elite/XL4, no its not 4 tuners to watch, its used for recording 4 shows at once, but there is only 1 HDMI output or component.

    Rear diagram of the XL4:
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    Fan - Cable card slot - eSATA - Video - Optical - HDMI​
     
  4. Bighouse

    Bighouse 200 Club Member

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    Yes I am and I know! If the four tuners are always available I'm just thinking how nice it would be to be able to run an hdmi cable from each tuner to separate hdmi inputs on my tv.
     
  5. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Even if there was 4 HDMI outputs, they would be outputing from the same tuner, or recording.
     
  6. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    The upcoming ip box is suppose to allow you to dedicate a tuner to it from a XL4 and that would work over your network without running long hdmi cables.
     
  7. Millionaire2K

    Millionaire2K New Member

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    I don't think you're getting what he is saying.

    He would like Tivo to create a box that WILL have 4 tuners, that WILL have 4 hdmi outputs, and WILL let you watch 4 diffrent shows from each output.

    He wants a new magic box.

    For PIP I think just 1 extra hdmi would be good enough.
     
  8. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Don't the TiVos still only have one MPEG decoder? You would need multiple decoders to have multiple different outputs.
     
  9. TZR916

    TZR916 New Member

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    I used to be with Dish Network. The Vip722 has multiple tuners and has PIP as a built in feature. There's no need for multiple hdmi outputs. The PIP is done in the STB, just press a button on the Dish remote. It works very well too- size, location, swap. I never used it but my dad (who is still with Dish) uses it all the time. When I switched from Dish to Comcast I was actually wondering why the Elite didn't have PIP (even though I would never use it).
     
  10. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    When someone is discussing their fantasy Tivo, there is no point at all in stating how Tivos really function, because that fact is obvious or the fantasy wouldn't be needed.
     
  11. Bighouse

    Bighouse 200 Club Member

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    Exactly.
     
  12. Millionaire2K

    Millionaire2K New Member

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    Then put in multiple decoders. Its a fantasy box.
     
  13. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    Though I don't use PIP in the same way I used to, I use it ALL THE TIME on my XS32, which I route my Tivos through. When watching a recording ON the XS32, I use PIP to sometimes halfway-watch another thing in PIP (e.g. a game show where I can FF through to the interesting bits), or for the VERY rare times I watch something live, to watch something else and use PIP to keep track of when the main show comes back on.

    Actually, I think that the new IP set top box _will_ be the "new magic box", and I personally have thought of using it this way. I very often dub things to my XS32 as I mentioned above.. so I can watch non-scripted things faster than realtime. But I would ALSO like to be able to watch something else from the Tivo at the same time.

    So, before this thread, I have imagined doing this:

    1) Dub one thing to the XS32 WHILE
    2) Watching another show via the IP STB *on the same TV* via another TV input...

    should work..
     
  14. Aero 1

    Aero 1 Member

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    never mind all of that. you will need a magic tv that will do PIP via HDMI inputs only, it doesn't exist.
     
  15. Bighouse

    Bighouse 200 Club Member

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    Huh? I can do pop with two of my four hdmi inputs on mt Sony Bravia.
     
  16. vurbano

    vurbano New Member

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    no.
     
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    But PoP is not PiP. PoP is "Picture Outside Picture" which splits the screen in half and shows two pictures of equal size.

    PiP "Picture in Picture" shows the second program in a small window.
     
  18. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    It depends on how you use it. My brother refuses to upgrade his dying old projection TV because it has splitscreen. They use it all the time to run multiple games at the same time. They also will sometimes play the 360 while watching a game.

    I keep telling him just to go with 2 smaller sets over one large set.
     
  19. Bighouse

    Bighouse 200 Club Member

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    In reading about the TiVo Stream device, it would give me the functioning I'm looking for. I hope it's priced similarly to my Apple tv!
     
  20. mattack

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    Yes, as I described above!!!!
     

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