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For Goodness sake, GET RID OF THE ANNOYING AUTO SLEEP!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by zubinh, May 15, 2013.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    That's why I love bathroom fans - nice white noise to sleep to. Short of that or when away from home there's lots of white noise devices available. I took a 5 min white noise mp3 and spliced together an 8 hour version that I will typically play at night when away from home in hotel rooms that don't have good bathroom fans.
     
  2. Digital Man

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    You guys should consider purchasing a cheap white noise machine rather than leaving the TV on. We have one in our bedroom and it works great. There are also white noise machine apps for smartphones that I use when I travel.

    Guy
     
  3. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    White noise is fine. Light and TV sound is not. Ambient noise machine is fine, so is running a fan (or A/C in the summer).
     
  4. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    I participate in lots of forums, but I have never seen a forum where any topic gets consistently (and completely) off topic by page 3 than TCF.
     
  5. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Lots of irony in play too.
     
  6. gweempose

    gweempose Active Member

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    We have an air purifier in our bedroom. Not only does the white noise from the fan help us sleep at night, but it cleans the air to boot. :)
     
  7. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    Come on now ! we are taking about the Mini 90 min. time out not how to sleep, if we want advice on how to go to sleep start a Thread on that subject.
     
  8. Loach

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    This problem appears to be gone after this week's Mini software update. Got a timeout warning while watching football today and when I cleared it there was no interruption in video or audio. :up:
     
  9. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    Did you read the update thread? it's clearly mentioned that one of the updates was swapping it from 90 min to 4 hrs.
     
  10. Jeremy5

    Jeremy5 New Member

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    I would suggest that you might be the one who needs to re-read Loach's post.
     
  11. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    nope, no need.. while not 100% on target, there was an update in the time out logic that would suggest they have tweaked it, especially with Loach saying the issue was resolved.
     
  12. Loach

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    Yes, I'm aware of that, but it is unrelated to the problem I was referencing. My post is about a problem I was having upon clearing the timeout message.

    Incidentally, my Mini still times out after 90 minutes. As referenced in another thread, I apparently need the Mini to phone home to activate the longer timeout, which TiVo inadvertently didn't push with the original update.
     
  13. hershey4

    hershey4 New Member

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    Darn, I noticed auto-sleep not working last 2 nights and I was afraid that the new Premiere update was responsible. I'm a light sleeper and I HATE waking up to audio in the middle of the night. I loved the 90 min auto time-out (although, yes I would prefer to set the time).

    My TV's sleep timer is buried in a million menus and is a PITA to deal with every night. Auto was perfect for me.

    Technically, i don't understand the internals and why you connected the two things, but it seems you were right. :(
     
  14. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    The timeout is now 4 hours instead of 90 minutes. TiVo chose to hard code another arbitrary number rather than giving users a choice.
     
  15. weedwhacker2

    weedwhacker2 New Member

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    Please give us the option of setting the "are you still watching" time period.
     
  16. dallyn

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    This is what I am looking for. I will be putting a mini in my garage so my dogs have constant music or tv playing. It keeps down on outside noise upsetting them. The timeout is going to be difficult. Do you know where such a program can be had? I have been searching for a couple of days now and cannot find what I am looking for. with all the network remote programs out there right now, you would think that one of them would work this way....
     
  17. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Here's a minimal python sample script to do it. This sample script will send a down arrow press to configured mini IP every 180 minutes or so.
    (Obviously you need to adjust the mini_ip setting accordingly and you may want to choose a different code to send than down arrow).

    (Most of this comes directly from wmcbrine's tivoremote python code).

    Save following code to a file say called ping_mini.py and obviously you need python installed to run it.
    Code:
    import socket
    import sys
    import time
    
    mini_ip = '192.168.10.173'
    sleep_interval_mins = 180
    sock = ''
    
    def connect():
        try:
            global sock
            sock = socket.socket()
            sock.settimeout(5)
            sock.connect((mini_ip, 31339))
        except Exception, msg:
            msg = 'Could not connect to %s:\n%s' % (mini_ip, msg)
            sys.stderr.write(msg  + '\n')
    
    def send(message):
        global sock
        if not sock:
            connect()
        try:
            sock.sendall(message)
            time.sleep(0.1)
        except Exception, msg:
            sys.stderr.write(msg  + '\n')
    
    while True:        
       send('IRCODE DOWN\r')
       time.sleep(sleep_interval_mins*60);
    
     
  18. telemark

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    There's cheaper hardware than a Mini. Like a RaspberryPi or Roku stick or Chromecast.

    >you may want to choose a different code to send than down arrow).

    What do these do on a mini?
    MUTE
    VOLUMEDOWN
    VOLUMEUP
    TVINPUT

    Beacon might be useful for households with a lot of mini's.
    [foreach Mini]

    If you close the connection after "send", some other remotes might be able to connect in the interim. Dunno, maybe on that one.
     
  19. dallyn

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    Thank you! I will go install python. I have spent the last bit trying to learn how to build something in Expect that will take care of doing it, and then put something in windows scheduler, but this seems much better...

    The reason I will be using a mini is that I work for the cable company, and so the extra mini will be very inexpensive, and I do still watch tv when I am out there. one of my dogs really likes HGTV. :)
     
  20. wkearney99

    wkearney99 Bill Kearney

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    When using timed activities it's often better to use the operating system's own task scheduling commands. That way you're leaving a program running, possibly interfering with the computer's ability to use power management, sleep or other features. Windows, linux, Mac; they all have some sort of task scheduling framework, use that instead.
     

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