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Food Network is terrible now

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by mwhip, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. sieglinde

    sieglinde Active Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Sebastopol, CA
    Fierri is a local or was a local where I live (Sonoma County, CA) so the local paper published that review. It was wonderful in how horrible it was. Everyone around here says his restaurants and food trucks had really good food. Maybe it is just new restaurant problems.
  2. Big Deficit

    Big Deficit Happy now?

    Jul 7, 2003
    Personally, I prefer the competition shows to the tired old cook in front of the camera format.

    From the reviews it would seem that Fierri's new restaurant is little more than a Friday's on steroids positioned in Times Square to scrape away as much tourist dollars as possible. It might be fun to go to, but there's little chance of it being any good. I doubt Guy has ever cooked there, probably only showing up for the planning and promotional appearances. Personally, I avoid celebrity chef restaurants like the plague. I also avoid chains like Fridays, Chilis, Outback, ect. If I'm going to spend money going out to eat, its at a small local owned place. It may be great, maybe awful but rarely is it mind numbing enforced uniformity mediocre which is all the chains can provide.
  3. jamesl

    jamesl Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    America's Text Kitchen
    Cook's Country from America's Text Kitchen
    Martha Stewart's Cooking School

    are all awesome
  4. Freshman JS

    Freshman JS Blue Devil - x2

    Nov 8, 2002
    Princeton, NJ
    You are missing out. Some of the best restaurants in the United States are celebrity chef restaurants. French Laundry, Per Se, Scarpetta, Cut, Craftsteak are some examples of excellent celebrity chef restaurants.
  5. Big Deficit

    Big Deficit Happy now?

    Jul 7, 2003
    I never meant to suggest that they were all "bad". Many (not all) "celebrity" restaurants have very little to do with the person in their title and more to do with the group that provides most or all of the money. They can be very good, but I'd rather pay directly into the hardworking people who are trying to live a dream. Not right or wrong, preference!
  6. ebockelman

    ebockelman PR#6 TCF Club

    Jul 12, 2001
    Cooking Channel has been HD for a couple of years now anyway.
  7. bsnelson

    bsnelson Mid-life anti-crisis in progress TCF Club

    Oct 30, 1999
    Allen, TX, USA
    I've only been to two "celebrity" restaurants (Tre Wilcox's Abacus in Dallas and Ming Tsai's Blue Ginger in Massachusetts) and both were very good (dare I say excellent) but they weren't like, say, Fieri's joints that have very little hands on involvement from the celebrity. At the time, Tre was the chef du cuisine pretty much every night, and Tsai was in the kitchen multiple times per week (but not the night I was there).

    But I digress. I, too, don't like the direction Food Network has taken, but I hadn't been watching for a long time anyway. Does anyone remember Two Hot Tamales? I used to love those gals, and they had some good recipes. I still use their banana bread recipe, it's awesome.

  8. Freshman JS

    Freshman JS Blue Devil - x2

    Nov 8, 2002
    Princeton, NJ
    Their restaurant in Vegas is very good too. Border Grill (at Mandalay Bay)
  9. mwhip

    mwhip All better

    Jul 22, 2002
    Two Hot Tamales was just a rip off of Two Fat Ladies :p

    I guess since I grew up on traditional cooking shows I like that format. Frugal Gourmet, Yan Can Cook and so on.
  10. lambertman

    lambertman To see you, Nice

    Dec 20, 2002
    They show up on Best Thing I Ever Made semi-regularly.
  11. Frylock

    Frylock Live Long and Tivo!

    Feb 13, 2002
    Round Rock, TX
    Yes, there are still plenty of cooking shows. They just go with different shows in prime time.

    I also gave up on RI when I got no updates. I don't like the show enough to go look up the ending online.
  12. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    I really like Tyler's Ultimate, which I think hasn't had new episodes in a couple of years. Never saw an official cancellation notice though.

    You'll notice that they've cut the budget on DDD, typically only two restaurants per show now instead of three. Guy's Big Bite doesn't bother paying for a set now, they just shoot in Guy's back yard.

    Losing Alton was a big blow to the network.

    The replacements, like the sandwich guy, are lackluster in my opinion.
  13. zuko3984

    zuko3984 Active Member

    May 4, 2002
    Well they haven't really lost Alton. It is really just Good Eats that went away and while I really liked it, it was on for a long time and kind of getting a little tired. He still does Iron Chef, The Next Iron Chef, Next Food Network Star and a bunch of specials like the live thanksgiving one they just had.
  14. mwhip

    mwhip All better

    Jul 22, 2002
    I was OK with Tyler's Ultimate but he kind of annoyed me.

    I agree the sandwich guy and Pioneer Woman are not that good of shows. Plus the way she talks annoys me.
  15. TAsunder

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

    Aug 6, 2003
    Madison, WI
    The French Laundry and Per Se are worlds ahead of the other places you mentioned, and I wouldn't consider Thomas Keller or his underlings at those places to be "celebrity chefs" ... the closest we have to a celebrity who runs one of the best restaurants in the world is probably Eric Ripert. Whose show is on PBS and not Food Network.
  16. dylking

    dylking I've never farded

    Jul 20, 2003
    St Paul, MN
    Our Season Pass List looks like this:

    FOOD: 30-Minute Meals
    COOK: Nadia G's Bitchin' Kitchen
    FOOD: Iron Chef America
    COOK: Kelsey's Essentials
    FOOD: Secrets of a Restaurant Chef
    FOOD: 10 Dollar Dinners
    FOOD: Food Network Star
    FOOD: Aarti Party
    FOOD: Sandwich King
    FOOD: Pioneer Woman
    FOOD: Restaurant Stakeout
    FOOD: Restaurant Impossible

    FOOD: Trisha's Southern Kitchen
    FOOD: Best Thing I Ever Made
    FOOD: Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives
    FOOD: Chef Wanted
    FOOD: $24 in 24
    FOOD: Next Iron Chef
    COOK: Iron Chef (Reruns)

    COOK: Good Eats (Reruns)

    Based just on that list, I'd say there's still a lot of cooking shows still on Food Network :)
  17. markymark_ctown

    markymark_ctown Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    just becuase you record it doesn't mean it's good...

    i record several of those too :)
  18. Mikeyis4dcats

    Mikeyis4dcats Well-Known Member

    Oct 2, 2003

    There is a huge difference in a Chef celebrity (Colicchio, Puck, Keller) and Celebrity Chefs (Fieri, Flay, etc).
  19. Freshman JS

    Freshman JS Blue Devil - x2

    Nov 8, 2002
    Princeton, NJ
    Fieri is a different category than the others. But, Flay started as a legit chef with the highly successful Mesa Grill before he did much of anything on TV.

    I like Puck's high end places, but he is as much of a sellout as any major chef with the low quality cookware, airport fast food places, and media empire.

    Colicchio has amended the signage at Craftsteak in Vegas to say "Tom Colicchio's craft steak." he has embraced the celeb chef thing bigtime. I still like the food there a lot.
  20. Freshman JS

    Freshman JS Blue Devil - x2

    Nov 8, 2002
    Princeton, NJ
    Sure, French Laundry and Per se might be the 2 very best restaurants in the country. Thomas Keller is doing a new food travel show.

    The other restaurants I mentioned are all excellent as well - not at French Laundry level, but neither are Keller's other places. Bouchon Las Vegas, in particular, is really not very good at all.

    Scarpetta got a terrific 3 star review in the NY Times when it opened. I really like that place a lot.

    Cut in Beverly Hills is phenomenal. If you haven't been, you really should try it. (Far better than the Vegas outpost).

    My point was that avoiding restaurants run by celebrity chefs would mean you are missing some good places. That's all.

    Certainly there are some celebrity chefs with bad restaurants, most notably Guy Fieri (I assume, although I have not been to his place). But, so what?

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