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Fios' free copying to end

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by wmcbrine, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. Aug 2, 2012 #81 of 119
    vurbano

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    As of about 8pm today its still copy freely.
     
  2. Aug 2, 2012 #82 of 119
    vurbano

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    Not sure but I bet if you were downloading illegal movies Verizon could track you down no matter how many times a week it changed. I'm sure these clever people could come up with a solution if they were interested. but I doubt they are.
     
  3. Aug 3, 2012 #83 of 119
    aaronwt

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    nothing active here from VHO4 yet. At least by checking to see if the programs can be transferred. Although I only have the Cinemax channels to test with.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2012 #84 of 119
    mr.unnatural

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    I've got a SiliconDust HDHomeRun Prime cablecard tuner that wasn't allowing me to see channel 131. I tried the Verizon In-Home Agent and ran into he same brick wall that everyone else did. I also tried activating the card over the phone using the automated system with no luck. I was eventually able to get into the phone menu and reactivate the cablecard and get it paired with the tuner. Now channel 131 comes in just fine.

    FWIW, I routinely record shows and copy them over to my PC. I'm not currently subscribed to any premium channels so I'm not running into the copy once flag on any channels I receive. So far it hasn't been an issue with any other channel on FIOS.
     
  5. Aug 4, 2012 #85 of 119
    lrhorer

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    I said that about ten seconds after trying the program. That was about six years ago.

    I'm not sure about ridiculous, but it certainly is trying to empower CATV companies in a way they should not be empowered.

    That's silly. Most people's home IP addresses are either on the 192.168.0/24 or 192.168.1/24 subnets. Tying the DRM to either one of those subnets would allow half the people on earth to pirate it, and prevent people with perfectly proper routing from watching the piece on their LAN. I'm sorry, and no offense, but while the idea of DRM is really foolish, that one is just plain stupid.
     
  6. Aug 4, 2012 #86 of 119
    lrhorer

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    San...
    That is what a "front door lock approach" means. It doesn't prevent dishonest people from stealing, it merely dissuades otherwise honest people from doing so.
     
  7. Aug 4, 2012 #87 of 119
    lrhorer

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    San...
    No computer within a firewall (except the firewall router) knows anything about any IP address outside the firewall. There is no way to tie anything to that address.

    As long as it is nonroutable, it can be anything you want it to be. It could even be routable, but in that case you would lose access to part of the internet. It can change at your whim, and chances are that millions of people have the same IP on one of their PCs as you do on one of yours.
     
  8. Aug 4, 2012 #88 of 119
    lrhorer

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    No one is going to buy multiple DVDs or BluRay disks just so they can watch a show in different rooms. Ten thousand different people as much as a continent away from each other certainly will, unless it as available free on the internet.
     
  9. Aug 5, 2012 #89 of 119
    aaronwt

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    Probably not likely. I use 221.214.xx.xxx. When I picked it in the 90's I made sure it wasn't an IP address that would be an issue for me. It's an IP address that is used in China. I've been using that IP address range for my LAN for a long time now.
     
  10. Aug 5, 2012 #90 of 119
    lrhorer

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    San...
    As long as you don't announce routes into the internet, no one can really stop you from using whatever address you choose behind a firewall, but using a routable address is really not a good idea, and it serves no purpose whatsoever. The fact it was used in China in the 1990s does not mean that is the case today, or tomorrow. You should choose a nonroutable subnet.

    There are more than plenty of nonroutable addresses. In 1994, RFC 1597 specifically set aside nonroutable addresses that will never be assigned anywhere on the internet, and it is these that should be used for private networks. It provides for up to 65,534 addresses in the range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.255.254, or 1,048,574 addresses in the range from 172.16.0.1 to 172.31.255.254, or 268,435,454 addresses in the range from 10.0.0.1 to 10.255.255.254. These ranges can be divvied up into subnets of 2, 14, 62, 254 (the most common), 1022, 4094, all the way up to 65,534 hosts for the 192.168/16 net, and far more for the others. I'm sure close to 270 million addresses is more than enough for your home LAN.
     
  11. Aug 5, 2012 #91 of 119
    aaronwt

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    It's still used in China. I have no intention of ever changing them since I'm so used to using them over the years. They have never caused me any issues since I have no need to access Chinese websites since I can't read Chinese. If I ever start having some kind of issue then I will be forced to use them. I also use this IP address range at my GFs house. Since it makes it easier when I move devices back and forth between both locations.
     
  12. Aug 5, 2012 #92 of 119
    lrhorer

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    As I said, it is a poor idea, but no one can force you to stop, unless you inadvertently announce a route into the internet. Of course, you will have to change before too long anyway in order to comply with IPv6.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2012 #93 of 119
    BigJimOutlaw

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    According to some folks on DSLReports, HBO and Cinemax are starting to get turned over to 0x02.
     
  14. Aug 8, 2012 #94 of 119
    aaronwt

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    Yes, I see it showing up here on VHO4 now for Cinemax. When accessing the TiVo from another box it only shows play as the option for the Cinemax recordings.
     
  15. Aug 8, 2012 #95 of 119
    NatasNJ

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    So if I have 1 TivoHD & 1 Tivo Premiere this means I won't be able to transfer/watch HBO & Cinemax shows from one unit to another?
     
  16. Aug 8, 2012 #96 of 119
    am95

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    I can confirm the unfortunate news that HBO is now 0x02, for me at least. It also seems to be apply to all the HBO stations. I was hoping for a miracle that maybe HBO 2 wouldn't be for some reason.

    For what's it worth, I remember when I had my Motorola box where HBO has always shown up at 0x02 but during HBO free preview weekends it would chance to 0x00 so maybe the same thing will apply here.
     
  17. Aug 8, 2012 #97 of 119
    mikeyts

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    Exactly.
     
  18. Aug 8, 2012 #98 of 119
    aaronwt

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    Time to upgrade the TiVoHD to a Premiere.
     
  19. Aug 8, 2012 #99 of 119
    NatasNJ

    NatasNJ Bone marrow lover!

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    With lifetime on HD it is tough to spend money for just ability to stream on the RARE occasion I would even want to. (for 2 channels only)
     
  20. Aug 8, 2012 #100 of 119
    tivohaydon

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    If I didn't have 50% off of all premium channels I'd drop HBO and Cinemax. But right now it makes absolutely no sense for me to do that.
     

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